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Fidelio
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« on: August 30, 2008, 11:31:50 am »

First of all, I love your app. The sound quality is fantastic.

However, I thought I could share a few annoyances in daily use.

1) If I click a song in the playlist tab, and then right click to delete it from the playlist, I get the windows shell instead of the XXHighEnd options. I have to leftclick the song twice - and then rightclick. Rather annoying.

2) XXHE has a tendency to muck up the windows shell service, so that Vista reverts to "classic" view (think win98). One has to reboot to fix this.

3) Why can't I add a singe song to a playlist? I have to add the whole album and then remove the tracks I don't want (and have to click them twice before rightclicking, of course..)

4) If the song that is playing isn't marked in blue in the playlist tab, XXHE won't play the next song in the list.

5) Cover art in the left viewing area sometimes "hangs". I'd like it to consequently show the cover of the song that is playing.

6) I don't like the new browsing in the left pane. I liked the old winstyle with expanding folders, not the new one where you have to click the back button to get to the whole library.

7) When one fiddles about in the folder pane on the left (which I have to use for browsing because the middle pane will not list all my albums for some reason), I get all the albums from e.g. Pink Floyd if I click on Pink Floyd. But when I go back to the main library in the left pane (where all my artists are listed), the cover pane in the middle won't revert from Pink Floyd. I have to click "search". Even then, it only reverts 1/3 of the times.

8 ) Sometimes, the pane on the left showing my root music folder suddenly shows the computer's entire folder structure, starting with "Computer".

Again, I love XXHE and the sound it produces, and I understand it is no easy task developing something like this. Cosmetics are not important to me, but the above listed stuff are quite annoying. Do take it as feedback, I am not bashing anyone:)

/Fidelio
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2008, 02:57:46 pm »

Haha Fidelio, no, I like these kind of reports; people should do it more.

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1) If I click a song in the playlist tab, and then right click to delete it from the playlist, I get the windows shell instead of the XXHighEnd options. I have to leftclick the song twice - and then rightclick. Rather annoying.

Yes, I know. This is a quirk of the specific "grid" tool used, and I couldn't get it better with the time I gave myself for it, back then.
I will look into it once more.

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2) XXHE has a tendency to muck up the windows shell service, so that Vista reverts to "classic" view (think win98). One has to reboot to fix this.

No, this is just Vista itself doing that. It was talked about a few times before, and it happens (to my own explanation) because XX binds the OS so much to her, that there's isn't time enough anymore for some other services, which one by one shut down. However :
When you apply everything from How I tweaked my Vista virtually dead it doesn't happen anymore. Or at least I never saw it since.
Otherwise you should be glad with this, because in theory it improves sound. yes
Anyway, this is not something I do, or something the XX program does, it just happens because of the real time process (which requires each 1 ms the attention of the OS and it MUST be served (unlike e.g. disk copying)).

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3) Why can't I add a singe song to a playlist? I have to add the whole album and then remove the tracks I don't want (and have to click them twice before rightclicking, of course..)

You just can by all means, except for when you asked for albums in the Library Area and load from there. Thus, you can load single tracks by means of :
- Drag from explorer
- The Library Button
- Rightclick on an album in the Library Area, and Load Individual Track
- Same, and things like Play Each
- Cause tracks to be in the Library Area (replace the A at the bottom there with T, and press search).

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4) If the song that is playing isn't marked in blue in the playlist tab, XXHE won't play the next song in the list.

Yes I can imagine that. The selection itself is used to track which song is playing, thus if no selection is there ...
However, how do you get rid of the selection (hence blue color) ? ah ... by means of deleting the selected track I guess.
Anyway, I can't see how this is annoying. I mean, there's no selected track, so your eyes can't see what is playing (which probably is nothing), and now you want the "next" ? which one will that be ? Happy

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5) Cover art in the left viewing area sometimes "hangs". I'd like it to consequently show the cover of the song that is playing.

Well, I'm sure it does. This must be related to you coverart problem in general. Let's sort that out first (the other topic).


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6) I don't like the new browsing in the left pane. I liked the old winstyle with expanding folders, not the new one where you have to click the back button to get to the whole library.

Yeah, but the other one I didn't like at all myself. Happy The problem is, what would happen at your place when you have 10000 albums in there. So, this is all about maintaining some speed in the (browse) process.
Btw, please note this : anyone using the Embedded Explorer for looking for albums etc., is doing wrong (somehow). Why ? well, because I never do that myself, and all can be done in the Library Area. The *only* reason you should be "allowed" to use the Embedded Explorer is for changing Galeries (like for Rock, Jazz, Dance). So maybe this helps ?

But I will look at it again anyway, because it still s*cks for other reasons.

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7) When one fiddles about in the folder pane on the left (which I have to use for browsing because the middle pane will not list all my albums for some reason), I get all the albums from e.g. Pink Floyd if I click on Pink Floyd. But when I go back to the main library in the left pane (where all my artists are listed), the cover pane in the middle won't revert from Pink Floyd. I have to click "search". Even then, it only reverts 1/3 of the times.

This is what I meant with s*cks. It is my intention that in the middle pane NEVER changes anything from the start, *unless* you click on a folder (not the arrow). Clicking on the folder fills the textbox at the bottom of the screen, and now here I go again : that is meant for Galery roots. Thus, from a Galery (root) like Rock, you'd *want* the Library Area be filled with the albums accordingly. And, if classical was there before, you'd want that gone. But not the Pink Floyd albums within Rock. Why ? there are already there, and you'll find them with typing Pink F ... in the Search textbox.

The anomaly with the Embedded Explorer is that even when you click an arrow, it sometimes (!) acts as if the folder was clicked, thus replaces the contents of the middle pane with Pink Floyd only, and when you want the old stuff back (all Rock), then it does coincidentally not work, because it works "sometimes".
So you see ? it s*cks. And this is all because of a bug in that particular software (which was far from free) which I can't work around so far.

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8 ) Sometimes, the pane on the left showing my root music folder suddenly shows the computer's entire folder structure, starting with "Computer".

I can't be sure, but this is most probably because you didn't fill in the (Settings) textbox for Music Root, or you removed that (partially) from the bottom textbox (Library Area).
But I will play with it myself, because I think it can happen via other ways as well.

Peter
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2008, 03:25:11 pm »

Sorry for the question about adding individual tracks, I had never right clicked albums in the middle pane before.....feel like a total n00b Happy

Thank you for your thorough answers as usual!

/Fidelio
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2008, 03:42:51 pm »

Don't forget to rightclick files in the rightmost pane then. prankster

But hey, it's time for a manual, right ?
(first finish off XX itself)
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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