Wav stops playing

[Mike]

These are the same error messages that I get (albeit in a different language) and I have had them for a while now, probably as long as the silently played track thing.... They don’t come up all the time though and not as often as the silently played track.

Mike

[PeterSt]

That ChangeWP thing to me looks like a similar problem why the earlier uploaded XXEngine3 didn't work. I need to apply similarly to the ChangeWP.EXE (and another one or two I think).

This is not true of course, because I didn't upload a new version of that.


Mike, that puts things in another perspective for at least some of your cases. Also, now I have something concrete to work with.

[JohanZ]

Yesterday the music spontaneously stops playing halfway the record in unattended mode (09v-2). No error messages. I have seen this before. Today I have test it with the same record in attended mode. Again it stops and now with messages! I have the impression that i have seen it also with other records. (In this version it is the second time)

[PeterSt]

So it looks like you can copy this behaviour, right ?

Which track was it at ? I have that album too, so I can check it.

[JohanZ]

So it looks like you can copy this behaviour, right ?

Every time i played this record it gives the errors
I have seen them just before the start of track three en and the second time just before the start of track four.

In the unattended mode you don't see the errors!

[Gerard]

Hi Johanz,

Do you also mean by this that the slider keeps on moving without music? Or do you think this is different?

 

[JohanZ]

......the slider keeps on moving without music?

No. The slider is at the start position!

[PeterSt]

Peter,

Just to let you now that i do not use the WP. And i do not know what happend but i looked at my pc to start music again. I thought that the cd has ended. Again WAV wich i played before without problems. these errors came up. I do not now if they are related to this topic. But i am sure you do...

EDIT: I started the second cd. So it was not going from cd 1 to cd 2. And when i clicked the error down the bottom away the error * Engine 3 did not start within ........time * came up.

EDIT2: Never had those errors.
 

These are the same error messages that I get (albeit in a different language) and I have had them for a while now, probably as long as the silently played track thing.... They don’t come up all the time though and not as often as the silently played track.

Mike

Gerard, Mike,

Did anything change since 0.9u-v2 ? I tried to apply some changes which might help in that version, but didn't hear back from you.
If things are still the same, or changed (and still errors) I'd like to know, so I may be able to apply something else with the upcoming release.

Thanks,
Peter

[Gerard]

Peter,

I did not have very much time to listen... But the moments that i did the error playing without music is gone. Meaning i did not have it until now. There are some other errors wich i will beam up later.... But must of these are the No track given ed.... First i must see a pattern...

Grtz

[PeterSt]

Yesterday the music spontaneously stops playing halfway the record in unattended mode (09v-2). No error messages. I have seen this before. Today I have test it with the same record in attended mode. Again it stops and now with messages! I have the impression that i have seen it also with other records. (In this version it is the second time)

Hey Johan,

I just tried this, but nothing ...

I noticed that you must be talking about the 24/96KHz version, that is, looking at the track times (look below, the first 9 tracks are the normal version, the second are the 24/96KHz version). There is a difference though ...
My picture of the 24/96Khz is "Morphed" and yours is not. My normal version is not either. This may tell nothing, but how good/official is your 96KHz version (ripped) ?

I saw that you play at -6dB which I did the same (as well as Q1 = 4).
I tried Attended Mode ...
(in an earlier XX version I played the album Unattendedly without problems)

[JohanZ]

, but how good/official is your 96KHz version (ripped) ?

It's the official Donald Fagen Nightfly Trilogy. ripped with DVD Audio Extractor.

I just tried this, but nothing ...

I have seen these errors also with other recordings. Not always reproducable

My picture of the 24/96Khz is "Morphed" and yours is not.

????

[xsheaffer]

Peter,
I am running 9u-16 and am having similar trouble as listed in this thread - "WP error", "no track given", and "engine 3 did not start" messages . The problem seems to be much worse when playing an album copied as an image of an entire CD rather than an album copied song by song. I'm running an NOS 1543 DAC, Vista Ultimate, and doing my pulls with EAC. I'll list below:
In all cases the computer "crashes" and restarts itself when left alone playing music. I.E. if I leave music playing and dont shut down the player manually, I get the "engine 3 did not start in the alotted time" message and the computer eventually restarts itself. I haven't actually witnessed this entire process yet, but the message appears after log in that an unexpected error had occurred.
Imaged CD's tracks play out of sequence. The player stops working after the "out of sequence" song is played. The correct song is displayed as playing, but you hear another. This happens just about every time. Stopping the player, and double clicking on the correct song title in the playlist usually sorts it out for awhile.
It seemed to start happening all at once after a week or so of no trouble with the last XXHE activation. Interestingly, this never happened before I activated my copy of Vista, and not on XP when I ran it. It could be coincidence, but the problem started immediately after I activated Vista through Microsoft and downloaded all the "updates".

Thanks in advance
Scott

[PeterSt]

Thank you very much for your detailed outlay Scott.
Btw, please put your data as mentioned (and more if you think it's applicable) in your signature. This is very easy for me and others, when finding common denominators in problems.

Ok. By now, I myself had this WP error once, and in that sequence somewhere and empty small window showed titled "ChangeWP". Of course I recognize this because I created it myself, but I can't understand what happens when the window is empty. I assume you all have this empty window too ...

Then, when you say "Image of the whole CD" I assume you mean you made a Cue File of it (via EAC), right ?
Well, that this ends with a "Stopped working" is very recognizeable, and somehow I "introduced" that some 4 or 5 months ago. IOW, I still must sort that out, which is not the easiest thing to do because it seems to happen only at playing the complete album. Btw, since the ChangeWP thing it happened only once to me, I never thought of the relation to that, so I will dive into it via that angle. But :
That this will let crash your PC ... ...

Imaged CD's tracks play out of sequence. The player stops working after the "out of sequence" song is played.

This is an interesting one, because I never heard of that, nor did I experience it myself. It could well be though that I never recognized things to be out of sequence, as well as that I always thought the album finished playing, while actually another track is there. Or IOW, it seems logic that when playing is out of sequence (and is skipping a track), things go wrong towards the end because another track is expected.
It wouldn't be so that you know of an album where you can copy this behaviour, hence know in advance what will happen ? If so, please post (or send me) the .cue file involved; maybe I can make something of it.

It seemed to start happening all at once after a week or so

Ok, but what is ? the out of sequence playing, or the crashes of XXEngine3, or the reboots ?

It could be coincidence, but the problem started immediately after I activated Vista through Microsoft and downloaded all the "updates".

Never believe in coincidence, and rather prove it isn't ! Another thing is that it might not be the best idea to auto-perform the upgrades offered, because you then never know what causes which. In this case it might be an idea to Google for the KB's concerned (each upgrade will have an MS KB number, which will be listed under your "Software" (or "Programs", whatever it is exactly)) and see whether others have problems with it. You also could go the nuke and pave way, and uninstall those upgrades.

Please let me know anything new on this, and don't hesitate to ask whatever it is you might want to know (without knowing for sure it is even relevant I mean).

Peter

[xsheaffer]

Peter,
Sorry for the late reply. This job thing keeps getting in the way...
I'll try to go in order:
     The WP error, I cannot recall if it was blank. I will note what it says next time I see it.
     Yes, in EAC the selection is "create image and cue file". Interesting, you note that the WP error seems to come with this type of file playback - this has been my experience also that it behaves worse (less reliable playback) with the image of the cd vs individual tracks.
     Regarding the "crashing", maybe my terminology is wrong. Everytime I leave the computer unattended with the player "going" (individual tracks selected or an image) I find it has restarted. This happens without exception if I do not shut the player down manually myself. Upon login I see the "Windows has recovered from an unexpected error". Is this one unique to just me? I would appreciate any input from anyone.
     I will try to recreate the problem when I get back home and make some notes on when it happens, and if it is repeatable/predictable. I haven't yet looked for patterns. I will send a .cue file next time.
Regarding "it all started" I am referring to these events collectively as "the problem". There may be many things actually happening, but I grouped them together as "the problem" (out of sequence playing,crashes of XXEngine3,reboots) . It starts with the wrong song playing vs the highlighted title in the playlist and ends with the computer restarting. I am sorry for not being more specific on this one.
     For sure the Windows updates have me suspicious!
     I realize these descriptions so far have very little value : I will take notes on the events of the next unscheduled landing as they happen and report back on this thread. Are there any files that XXHE creates that I can copy and send to you that will help identify what is happening?

Thanks!
Scott
 

[PeterSt]

Thanks so far Scott.
FYI : I have been watching the playback regrading the sequence for some albums, but saw nothing wrong. Playback ends just after the last track, but, ends in an "XXEngine3 stopped working". I also left the PC at that for a night, but the next morning it was still in the same state.

Did this happen with Attended or Unattended Playback ?

But maybe we're on the wrong track with this all because

Everytime I leave the computer unattended with the player "going" (individual tracks selected or an image) I find it has restarted

this tells it is unrelated to the Cue File problem (wrong sequence playing or not), and it seems much better that we first try to find your restart problem. But is there a restart problem ? The stupid thing is, I 100% recognize your message from seeing that in the log (but I don't know which log anymore), and I just *had* to associate it with a "Stopped working" situation, because my system never reboots, and if it would, it would be asking for a password after that (and the sleep state does not incur for that).
So, how sure can you be that this really happens, hence are you abel to prove otherwise that indeed this happens (Logs).

Now we have three problems in one ...