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« on: January 06, 2024, 08:16:31 am »

When playing some newly prepared playlists, I get a dialog box saying "Check Cover Art" with the message "CoverartPath is empty".  This does not happen with albums, only with playlists.  Previously prepared playlists play fine.  Does anyone know what causes this error.  I can click "OK" and playback resumes, but it is a both when trying to play a long playlist.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2024, 08:19:27 am »

Playing the playlist using Windows Media Player works fine, so wondering if this has something to do with how XXHE handles cover art for playlists where each track essentially has a different associated album cover.
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XXHE version 2.11.
Music Server: XXHE PC, RDC to Audio PC, ET^3 cable
XXHE settings: Q1/xQ1 14/x4, Q3/4/5 0/0/1, SFS 10.13 (Max 120), Clock Res 10ms, Core Scheme:3-5, Driver Buffer 16ms, Balanced Load 35, Nervous Rate 10.
Audio PC -> Lush^3 USB (A: WYRG; B: WG-> NOS1(a,75B, G3) -> Blaxius^2.5 (A:BG, B: BG) -> Orelo Mk II active speakers
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2024, 02:20:52 pm »

Have same error for a very long time. Tried to solve it by adding any photo named 'folder' (.jpg, .png) in directory - no success, error repeats (as well as need to confirm OK on every file). Thought my W10 was damaged but same repeats on W11 as well.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2024, 04:38:25 pm »

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This does not happen with albums, only with playlists

What is a "Playlist" in this realm ?
The only phenomenon Playlist as such is one from Tidal. And Tidal stopped working for XXHE to begin with.
Playlist Area is something else, but there is no difference between one album or two or 20 with a couple of tracks of each.

And so I guess it requires some elaboration ?
Nothing stopped working over here.

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Thought my W10 was damaged but same repeats on W11 as well.

That is Fishy because only 14393.0 is supported, and some older of course.
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2024, 06:28:17 pm »

Hi Peter, long time no speak, ahm, no e-mail Happy
My case: it is not 'playlist' per se, just a number of files randomly chosen from different albums and put into same folder. Like example, 'good' or 'night music' or like, f.e. member 'tore', 'tore's choice' etc. Files (larger number, like 40, 50 or more) are loaded through XXHE explorer, played on standard PC, not audio PC and not minimised/optimised Windows. XXHE will not play until I click away that small window 'Check Coverart' and message 'CoverartPath is empty'. This repeats for each file in so formed 'playlist'.

EDIT: Better word would be 'play cue' iof 'playlist'
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2024, 08:01:14 pm »

The problem is fixed doing the following:

- Create a new folder.  I called it "Compilations" instead of "Playlists".  I moved all the folders containing multiple tracks under this new folder.  I no longer get the error.  Something seems to have happened in resolving file paths that this simple process fixed.  Nik: perhaps you can try this.
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Audio PC: Stealth III PC; RAM-OS W10 14393.0. 
XXHE version 2.11.
Music Server: XXHE PC, RDC to Audio PC, ET^3 cable
XXHE settings: Q1/xQ1 14/x4, Q3/4/5 0/0/1, SFS 10.13 (Max 120), Clock Res 10ms, Core Scheme:3-5, Driver Buffer 16ms, Balanced Load 35, Nervous Rate 10.
Audio PC -> Lush^3 USB (A: WYRG; B: WG-> NOS1(a,75B, G3) -> Blaxius^2.5 (A:BG, B: BG) -> Orelo Mk II active speakers
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2024, 08:36:07 pm »

This is partly a comment and a question.

- For albums, there is typically an image "Folder.jpg" that is the cover art for the album.
- In "Playlist" folders, there is no cover art file.  And each file comes from a different album. How do media players find the cover art for these different tracks and albums?
- After I moved the folders, I no longer get the "CoverartPath is empty" message.  But also, I get the standard XXHE "X" cover art page when there is no cover art image.
- Playing the same files with Windows media player, the player seems to extract a cover art image even without any image file anywhere.
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Audio PC: Stealth III PC; RAM-OS W10 14393.0. 
XXHE version 2.11.
Music Server: XXHE PC, RDC to Audio PC, ET^3 cable
XXHE settings: Q1/xQ1 14/x4, Q3/4/5 0/0/1, SFS 10.13 (Max 120), Clock Res 10ms, Core Scheme:3-5, Driver Buffer 16ms, Balanced Load 35, Nervous Rate 10.
Audio PC -> Lush^3 USB (A: WYRG; B: WG-> NOS1(a,75B, G3) -> Blaxius^2.5 (A:BG, B: BG) -> Orelo Mk II active speakers
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2024, 08:37:01 pm »

@briefremarks
Thanks, seems that your solution works over here as well. Loaded folder with some 89 tracks under different file path (previous one was //'Playlist/foldername') and voila, same files, different path and XXHE does not complain any more. Think Peter made some rule/limitation that triggers a.m. error.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2024, 08:50:26 pm »

This is partly a comment and a question.

- For albums, there is typically an image "Folder.jpg" that is the cover art for the album.
- In "Playlist" folders, there is no cover art file.  And each file comes from a different album. How do media players find the cover art for these different tracks and albums?
- After I moved the folders, I no longer get the "CoverartPath is empty" message.  But also, I get the standard XXHE "X" cover art page when there is no cover art image.
- Playing the same files with Windows media player, the player seems to extract a cover art image even without any image file anywhere.

This is easy answer: XXHE does not read so called 'file header' or at least not beyond sample rate and bit depth while most other players do read local file header or search song / album cover on internet. Several websites collect such infos: Discogs, MusicBrainz, freedb to name the few.
 
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2024, 03:00:35 pm »

Haha. The far more easy answer is that you both use XXHE "wrongly".
In general, there are numerous ways to load tracks into the Playlist Area (numerous : could be a dozen), and copying tracks at the Windows level into a folder, is not among those. I think I have no clue what suddenly brings you both in thinkin it can work like that.
It cant'.

Nik, you conclusion that coverart is not read from the file, is correct. Mind you, for WAV this even officially can't be - or at least 15 years ago that could not be.

Anyway, one of the dozen examples : drag a track onto the PlayList area from Explorer.

N.b.: Working with (small) Galleries would be the official way to play what Tore plays. These become 'meta data" folders. Exists from day one ...

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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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