Within this "community" (now over 12 years old I tink), we learned to express audio in a (most special) way that everybody unconditionally believes what the other is stating. I mean, if someone tells something on this forum, it is not only me who believes it unconditionally, but everybody will.
This is prerequisite #1 to let work anything when it is about
Talking sound quality (verbalizing and communicating listening experiences)
The fun is that there are no rules now about
how to express. At least I don't recall that they exist. Not explicitly but also not implicitly. However, since most here in this forum starts a bit with me, people may tend to express similar as me. But nothing depicts it and I don't see it happening for real (trying to look back). However, it would be easy to have this conversation :
PeterSt : Listen to this little part - it gives you a feeling in the stomach which is not present at all with dial A to 1.
Contender #2 : Yea, I agree, it is easy to hear. And if I set dial A to 9 something get on my nerves. Thank you for this, it is way better like this.
PeterSt : Now you mention it, my wife gets itchy with that thing set to 9.
Here, contender #2 was not the first with an observation, but PeterSt challenged him or her to make something conscious which unconsciously was there already. All it took was making Contender #2 confident to now express too about this same.
What is of unsurpassed importance is that PeterSt receives confirmation about something he was not sure about at all, which he couldn't be because of being alone at first.
Hearing problems and issues (avoiding bias, hearing aids, etc.)
There. It is only that this is not an explicit means for recognition by others, but with the notice that everybody is allowed to disagree, it is becoming an objective measure. This, of course, hoping for at least 10 others to judge the same, especially with other subjects relating (the Dial A at 9 expression).
We, at this forum, are very long past distrust of any individual. And this is surely not about me only - it is merely about all of the others
except me. I am hardly of importance because of one out of one thousand only. But then ...
Audiophile Listening skills” (skills, training, learning, and expertise)
... Instead of treating everything like a placebo and demanding measurement and what not, if one unconditionally believes what the other hears - no matter it seems to depend on cognition (haha) - one could try to learn along even at this distance and (not listening together to the same set of speakers in the same room etc.). And you know what ? already the next minute "you" can contribute at the same level of quality just because you learned it is allowed in the first place. "So wait, if Dial A at 1 gives a sense in the stomach, then I can just as well bring across that Dial A at 9 gives me the creeps, right ?".
And really, if only ONE other person is affirmative about Dial A giving some itches, it will be a fact forever and for everybody.
It will be law and a new control (or insight of it) is born ...
Right. The above in a nutshell what IMO this could all be about. Or, what its purpose could be (while we actually already know - not newbies of course). For now this leaves this one :
Musical Perception
Possibly this one is dedicated for me only, because I don't recall much others talking about this in writing. In person (music playing) this is super easy, but in writing it takes so much blahblah that possibly only I can do it.
It is nothing that people readily can agree with, or test for the same. Maybe it can't even exist (see the first list) because we are too different. Still it is recognizable that if with me the adrenaline is flowing, it flows with everybody in the room BUT we then all behave the same. So this could be an unfair description. Fact is that once this starts happening (adrenaline is just one example) it can only get better and never worse.
To name something which is probably very personal : when my mood is bad (this is very rare but it can happen) a. all music sounds bad and b. no music can improve my mood. For me it is only the other way around : when my mood is good the music sounds (even) better.
I could give a couple of examples of how I perceive music - and then always related to some settings change or due new hardware thing), but this forum is already full with it. My posts regarding this are always extremely long-winded, and I feel I can only bring across the (whatever) message with a great deal of entourage description. Maybe I feel that things must read like a novel, some times like a thriller or else I can't bring across what I want. It's always in the midst of the sensation still present, and always right away next morning (later and I can't do it any more).
Mind you, this is again about how we communicate the listening experiences (already dealt with more above) but this starts with the happening itself. Thus, without expressing about how (in this case) I perceive the music and what the conditions are/were, I will not be able to communicate it.
All 'n all, there is no such thing in my - or anyone's vocabulary here "it sounds better now !";
Better does not exist. A description of a state of mind (I am trying to be educated now) does. Talking you into the same, also exists (think be being commercial now, although I am not and probably can't be for real).
Possibly such things can happen on this forum only.
Most probably such things can happen in a private group easily. But that is not fair because the group will not require justification. Here, a public forum, is full of it.
It is also a major reason why I don't like private emails about such matters in the first place. No justification is needed at all (I probably could talk anyone into anything with a bunch of lies) and my brain knows that too. It thinks differently in that situation. No lies are possible on a public forum. A lot of shouting Yes. But then again, not on this one.
Peter
