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« on: July 07, 2018, 09:40:07 pm »

All,

I just got the

"Music Files does not exist (1):UnicodeTrack0001.wav.  Consider that the LAN is shut down during playback while you play a .WAV and have not set 'Copy To XX-Drive by standard'."

message while trying to play the Sylvain Chauveau album "Le Livre Noir Du Capitalisme"

I thought I'd rename the file names and see if it would play.  Noticed something interesting.  When I place the edit cursor just after a letter with an accent, and then hit backspace, it gets rid of the accent only, not the whole character.  Doing this on all of the characters that had accents, I removed all accents, and the album now plays.

Passing this along.  It isn't a big problem right now.  Assuming we'll eventually get a fix for these files with accented characters.

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XXHE version 2.11.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2018, 10:58:55 am »

Hi Ramesh,

Well, quite interesting on the accents. I have never seen it. However, I think I can reason how that works. So, with languages like "Chinese" and the like, two bytes are used to store the character. Escape one, and the character changes (quite similar to what you saw). Escape the second, and the whole reserved space for the character is now empty and the character gone.

... But this doesn't - and shouldn't happen over here, with our "normal" language. But maybe if your OS is set up for such a language ? (could even be encouraged for in your case)

This is all outside the real problem you report, and which is a bit hard to digest. But maybe I forgot how "intelligent" the program deals with the "shut down LAN" feature ...

When the "Copy to XX Drive by standard" is not active, a WAV will (or should) stay at it's original location because it doesn't require any treatment (opposed to FLAC and the like because they need conversion to WAV and the output always goes to the local space (XX Drive)).
When I made it more intelligently, and activate / mimic the "Copy to XX Drive by standard" in the case of the LAN shutting down, it should be so that the copy procedure goes slightly different and now something goes odd with the accents. Point is and remains : I don't think I can mimic the situation in the first place because of the first little story above.

In the end something should be amiss somewhere. I mean, XXHighEnd is used all over the world, also with the OS set to Mandarin or whatever all exists, and most certainly also with the diacritical marks (which accents are) all over, let alone the titles of albums in just that language. This all works (as far as I perceive) unless now suddenly everybody jumps on me with a "not really !".

... And then I am suddenly thinking that the possibiliy exists that you just have an album with "file data" organized like that. I mean, this should work the same as I decribed. And maybe now suddenly this go strange. Alos notice that a diacritical mark just fits in that one byte space. But what if this comes from a file system that also allows for "Chinese" ... ?

30 minutes later ... I had better assume that my IQ is lower than assumed and that I have not made it automatically so that the "Copy to XX Drive by standard" would be implied when necessary (shut off LAN). That would have saved me 29 minutes. So, it is just that.
But it also implies that your story ain't right. OTOH, it took me 30 minutes to properly test it (with the largest issue being the looking for suitable albums) so you could have tested it wrongly relatively easy.
Thus, when the "Copy to XX Drive by standard" is not active, not any track plays and the message you receive just tells what it is (the file is not there when the LAN is shut down).

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Peter
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