Trying w10 on my old PC

[Telstar]

Do I need 20GB, Peter?

Hi Telstar,

No. Unless you are going to work with the real higher SFS like 100+. But this is not comon any more.
12GB will do.

When you want to play around with a RAM disk, then anything is possible.

Be careful with the "uneven" number of memory modules; not all MoBo's take 3 (but do take 1, 2 or 4).

Peter

I remember i was doing something with the ramdisk in(putting XXE in there or copying the files i guess).
I got a good deal for 2x8GB, which added to the 2x2GB currently installed makes 20GB.
I'm going this route.

Then I could make a 8GB ramdisk for files, correct? Too much?
I'll never be able to put the OS in there, just files and/or xxhe.

[PeterSt]

05 | Installing and using a RAMDisk (IMDisk).

There's a section in there "Space required".

[Telstar]

05 | Installing and using a RAMDisk (IMDisk).

There's a section in there "Space required".

Thank you very much! I will do it once I get the new ram.

It is quite astonishing, though, how just using RDC causes out of memory errors at a rate 20 times more than when using the computer directly.

[PeterSt]

It is quite astonishing, though, how just using RDC causes out of memory errors at a rate 20 times more than when using the computer directly.

I think it is not so astonishing. This is because RDC does not use the video card's RAM in the Audio PC. It uses normal memory instead.
... which is a super good thing because now you can remove the video card, which these days is almost a requirement for good sound.

Peter

[Telstar]

I think it is not so astonishing. This is because RDC does not use the video card's RAM in the Audio PC. It uses normal memory instead.
... which is a super good thing because now you can remove the video card, which these days is almost a requirement for good sound.

Peter

Oh, I see
I use the onboard intel gfx, but I cant and wont disable it from bios, otherwise I couldnt access to the computer in case of problem without a spare vga card which I dont have.

[Telstar]

Unfortunally the ram kit i had found was ddr3 while my mainboard still uses ddr2. The maximum i can get will be 16gb with 4x4gb modules.

I went ahead to experiment with various sfs, since i get oom errors anyway (without logic looking at actual memory used, but i know that windows is dumb so I'm not pointing the finger to xxhe).

I cannot use straight contiguous, not even 0,19mb (silly!)
All tests have been done with mixed contiguous. I tested
0,19
2,00
2,19
10,19
20,19

And i prefer the latter. 10,19 in particular sounded a little harsh with more pronounced sibilants. No clear difference between the 3 lowest settings.

My hope is to be able to use straight contiguous with 16gb of total ram.
Tbe ramdisk tests will also must wait.

[PeterSt]

I cannot use straight contiguous, not even 0,19mb (silly!)

Not sure whether it helps, but be sure to start a few seconds of playback the soonest after booting. It's probably too late already, but the more seconds you wait, the more "contiguous" memory will be eaten by other processes, scattering everything.

Side note : I recall that the memory reserved for this is at block boundaries. So once you are under that limit (of 2MB or 4MB) making the SFS smaller does not help any more (SQ will still change though).

not even 0,19mb (silly!)

Not that you can work with it, but notice that this 0.19 example number, it without unit. So it is not MB or something. In the far end memory is implied surely, but it is merely about a "response". So it implies memory alright (the smaller the number the lesser the memory used), but there's matters involved like bit depth and sampling rate and sort of buffer and Q1 size and ...
It can not be explained (and I dont want to ).

Peter

[Telstar]

I reverted to 2,19 because with 20,19 i was getting too many ooms. Today was a bad day.
In my setup, no differences between 0,19 - 2,00 and 2,19. The theory of the decimal 19 is a sound one so I went for it.

Indeed there are certain albums that triggers it more often, besides the use of RDC (too handy, I cant really get up to load a new track or pause to answer phone).
Most times I just close the popup and the playback continues without issues til the end of the album. Other times audio stops and I restart the player.

I'll check Q settings tomorrow comparing to your signature (both configs).
I wish I had the right ram to upgrade sigh. Hopefully soon, but gotta rely on 2nd hand market.

[PeterSt]

Thank you for the feedback, Telstar.
I hope you can find some of that memory.

Peter

[Telstar]

4 more gigs incoming in a day or two.
Let's see if this will fix the OOMs.

[Telstar]

Ordered Intel Q9550S, which was one of the 3 best options: 4c/8t 12MB cache with 65W TDP only. Not sure how long will take the delivery from Japan (lol found it only there).
Motherboard will need the last bios (will put it ASAP), but it's compatible and it will be downclocked.

Then there is only the wait for a whole new system

[Telstar]

Got the ram, plugged it and it works.
No errors while playing at desktop. Trying RDC now.

[PeterSt]

Ha !

[Telstar]

Not error free unfortunately,  but i can generally play a full album without one.
Idk why memory management is so bad that 8gb dont cover all. Looks like the previously written blocks aren't freed.

[PeterSt]

Hey Telstar,

I feel that something else could be (or should be) the matter. But mind you please, it still is so that few will have the experience with so few memory these days. Anyway :

Is the version you use (still) 14393.0 ?
See a cleared Playlist Area for the version.

What is the resolution you are using while on the remote ?
Bit depth ? (implying you can set that lower)

Peter