The Lush

[acg]

Best is #1.  Clearly.  Gives that growl in the female vocals that all men love.

Anthony, man, what a great share this is.
And yes, good description of what the Intona does to the sound. But let's keep in mind, only for 14393.0 that works out so (to be "over"). 10586.0 is fine with it.

Personally I would always stick to such devices and cables. This is for the reason of things being able to drastically change for all the reasons you may run into in the future (which we can not predict).

Regards and super thanks,
Peter

That's right, the older W10 is less picky about the Intona, I had forgotten.  Are you done with the W10 'versions' Peter, or are you planning to try one of the more current versions with RAM-OS and XXHE?

I have another reason to want to ditch the Intona that I will share at some stage in the near future when I get enough time to finalise that particular project.  Suffice to say that it will not fit anywhere in my rack at the moment and there are guys that are actively looking to buy them, so it is a good time to sell the Intona.  

[PeterSt]

If possible I would also like to have 1m of this original cable. I already asked for a spare once, but when I moved to a new house I lost it again

Haha Juan. Can you tell me what I charged for it the last time ? I recall something like 2$. Or maybe it was 5. Or 10.
Anyway  put it next to your name.

Regards,
Peter

[juanpmar]

If possible I would also like to have 1m of this original cable. I already asked for a spare once, but when I moved to a new house I lost it again

Haha Juan. Can you tell me what I charged for it the last time ? I recall something like 2$. Or maybe it was 5. Or 10.x
Anyway  put it next to your name.

Regards,
Peter

I think it was 10€ including shipping but charge whatever you think is right. That cable is worth much more than it costs.

Juan

[juanpmar]

Peter, are you finally going to send me the Lush (and the original) at the same time as the Bass upgrade? I ask you because you did not confirm it.

Juan

[PeterSt]

Peter, are you finally going to send me the Lush (and the original) at the same time as the Bass upgrade? I ask you because you did not confirm it.

Haha, if I had to confirm all, each topic would have triple the post count, because you'd also all say "thank you".
So yes, of course I will, faults prohibited.

And yes, I just saw that it was 10 euros including shipping, not insured.
Technically that would make it 1.30 euros.
Prices went up drastically, and now it is 2.00.

Best regards,
Peter

[PeterSt]

Next step the Lush... you'll like it and brings back some goodies from the tube amp. 

This really is so, you know. And while such an expression (thank you Bert) is not only analogous to my own expression of how super Analog the Lush is (see first post), it is also the most consistent which what
a. Mani predicted from his setup with the tube amp active, combined with my description;
b. my own description from what I heard in Mani's system (), me right away saying that 50% of Lush already was present;
c. thus Bert's idea about it, who after long consideration stepped back from tube amplification (by now long ago) and which he still longs for if you ask me.

In the end it is about this I said in the first post :

Yesterday too, I explicitly watched for any wrongness or disturbance or annoyance etc., but in 4 hours of time I could not find anything. Instead I thought "OMG what have I done this time".

So this is really about this perception we may all have from analog in general and how a turntable may exhibit ticks and everything we know of it for negatives, but it is the most hard to let go wrong. So this is how I resemble "analog" with "not being able to go wrong" and suddenly the Lush implies this. So of course I was working on an again better USB cable, but that it would exhibit this specific property, no, I could not have guessed that.

Peter

[PeterSt]

Are you done with the W10 'versions' Peter, or are you planning to try one of the more current versions with RAM-OS and XXHE?

Anthony, no, not done at all. Although I don't give it much chance, for a month or so I have the Creators Update on my network somewhere. But I have been working on the Lush since, and somehow I am short of time.
Anyway, this is not tested "in a minute" because I can only make it a RAM version to compare apples with apples.

If it works out (I assume it will - against all odds ) it will be an upgrade to the RAM OS Disk.

Peter

[acg]

Are you done with the W10 'versions' Peter, or are you planning to try one of the more current versions with RAM-OS and XXHE?

Anthony, no, not done at all. Although I don't give it much chance, for a month or so I have the Creators Update on my network somewhere. But I have been working on the Lush since, and somehow I am short of time.
Anyway, this is not tested "in a minute" because I can only make it a RAM version to compare apples with apples.

If it works out (I assume it will - against all odds ) it will be an upgrade to the RAM OS Disk.

Peter

Yeah, I figured you were busy there! (understatement).

[juanpmar]

Peter, are you finally going to send me the Lush (and the original) at the same time as the Bass upgrade? I ask you because you did not confirm it.

Haha, if I had to confirm all, each topic would have triple the post count, because you'd also all say "thank you".
So yes, of course I will, faults prohibited.

And yes, I just saw that it was 10 euros including shipping, not insured.
Technically that would make it 1.30 euros.
Prices went up drastically, and now it is 2.00.

Best regards,
Peter

That's fine Peter, I accept the new price 

Best regards
Juan

[manisandher]

... from what I heard in Mani's system ()...

I suppose this could do with some explanation...

I got an email from Peter on Saturday, the complete content of which was literally, "are you home tomorrow?". I replied "yes" and at around 5:30pm on Sunday, Peter, Ciska and Paul arrived at our doorstep. Most of the following two days were spent on chatting, sightseeing, eating and drinking (me less than Peter!). But we did get a chance to take a listen to my main system (but not my office system).

Peter, Ciska and Paul have 'great ears'. They could hear issues with my system immediately - issues that I was aware of too, but that I'd grown used to and/or wasn't bothered by. But playing around with a few things, it became increasingly apparent to Peter that my beautiful tube amps were doing something strange in the mids and tops. This 'strangeness' was being masked by the low end. The advice from Peter: "Mani, stick to how you had things before, because you were happy with the sound". Very, very good advice... but not satisfactory for me. At around 2am on Tuesday morning (only Peter and me still awake) I suggested that we try the BD30-SPR amps, which were already unboxed and sitting at the back of the listening room, because I'd been meaning to try them with the G3 upgrade for some time anyway.

As soon as the BD30-SPR amps were in, the whole sound just 'clicked into place'. What was/is wrong with the tube amps? I suspect nothing. But it really is a tall ask expecting their 5W or so per channel to drive full range speakers (albeit high-efficiency horns) with passive crossovers and no powered LF drivers. I suspect this is simply too much for them. I could be wrong of course. In any event, I have zero intention of selling these tube amps - if I ever go for a multi-amp setup in the future, these amps will be my number one choice for the mids.

It was an absolute pleasure entertaining Peter, Ciska and Paul for a couple of days. If you ever get an opportunity to have them around, I'd jump on it!

As for me, I'm very happy with the sound I now have (even happier than I was before - it just sounds 'more right' in every way). But I'm very much looking forward to receiving my Lush...

Mani.

[juanpmar]

Mani, you're a lucky guy having Peter's whole family as guests. It is impossible to imagine a better way to fine tune the sound system. Congratulations on the  fantastic sound I can imagine you have now and waiting to see the effect of the Lush on your system.

Juan

[Gerard]

All that effort for selling a Lush 

[PeterSt]

All that effort for selling a Lush 

No no no, we had to go and smell the real thing (which is in the south of the UK) anyway.

At first I stayed outside; The smell from the inside was terrible. The body guard was also not much attractive to me.

This is actually how you definitely won't get in.

But *if* you do, you get this.

[Scroobius]

All that effort for selling a Lush

  - so Lush is the latest greatest thing from the house of Phasure  -  So tell me what salesman would turn up without a Lush in his hand - Soon after Mani's visit Peter, Ciska and Paul turned up at my place with similarly short notice and did not have a Lush with him for either me or Mani.


Paul

[manisandher]

The only thing to take into account - and this is for G3 owners only - is that the small piece of USB cable which goes out and into the left leg, better not carry USB power. And I only say this because I think it sounds worse with power (and quite noticable).

Yesterday evening, I tried: Clarixa -> Phisolator -> short USB link (with 5V blocked) -> NOS1 G3 -> BD30-SPR monos, and...

This works very, very nicely! My initial thoughts of a 'smooth, rounded' sound with the Phisolator remain, but this now complements the overall presentation, rather than detracting from it. Also, when I tried the Phisolator earlier, I did not have the 5V blocked going into the NOS1.

Switching back to the Intona, there seems to be some HF 'hash' added to the sound. It seems to make the sound more lively, and as Anthony said, raise the overall pitch of the sound. As a result, the LF seems to recede quite a bit. With the settings I had my speakers on, and with the tube amps in place, this seemed to actually benefit the sound.

[For Peter: With the Phisolator now in place, in order to maintain the overall balance in the sound, I have the mid/high settings on the speakers at about the position they were when the weirdness in the mids/highs with the tube amp became apparent. I now wonder if this weirdness may have actually have been down to the Intona, and not the amps. Will investigate further at some point, but right now, really enjoying the sound with the BD amps.]

Mani.