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« on: April 29, 2016, 06:29:04 pm »

If somebody could tell me how to connect to my headless XXPC from my Mac laptop using Windows RDC, I'd appreciate it.

My XX PC in on my LAN - I can see it in Finder and connect from there.  However, using the XXHE account from the RDC client (which is current) does not work.

I thought I needed to activate Windows to setup another user but Peter says no.  I thought I would post here rather than continue to bug him.

Apologies if this is covered elsewhere.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2016, 07:04:19 pm »


Paul, always use the IP Address (of the XXHighEnd PC) to connect to via RD(C). When the connection works, you normally login with the XXHE account.

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I thought I needed to activate Windows to setup another user but Peter says no.

That is not really what I said. I said (or intended to say) it is not necessary to set up another account. That wouldn't even work elsewhere (in the audio (XXHighEnd) environment, later.

Btw, it is difficult to really bug me. But I am off for the day now ... yes

Peter
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2016, 11:02:59 pm »


Paul, always use the IP Address (of the XXHighEnd PC) to connect to via RD(C). When the connection works, you normally login with the XXHE account.

I had an issue once with RD where the IP address would not work, and against Peters advice I used the computer name "RAM-OS" and it works like a charm.
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Audio PC
Stealth Mach II with Xeon E5 2698 v4 20 Core 2GHz  with Hyperthreading On [40 cores]/ 32GB Ram / RAM-OS / mobo USB port

XXHighEnd 2.11 RAM-OS (W14393 RAM)
Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Buffer 4096 / Q1/3/4/5 = 14/1/1/1 / xQ1 = 1 / Processor Core Appointment Scheme = Core 1-3 / PlayerPrio = Low / ThreadPrio = RealTime / ClockRes = 1ms / Not Switch during playback = off / Xtweaks Balanced Load = 43 / Nervous Rate = 100 / Cool when idle = 1 / Provide stable power = 0 / Utilize cores always = 1 / Time Stability = Stable / Time Performance Index = Optimal / SFS 0.90MB Max 120MB / Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect = on / Start Playback during conversion = off / Do not start playback at all = off / Copy to XX-drive by standard = on / Always clear Proxy before Playback = on / Stop Remaining Desktop Services = on / Stop Desktop Services = on / Stop Remaining Services = on / Stop WASAPI Services = on / Stop W10 Services = off / Keep LAN Services = on / Persist = off / Use Remote Desktop = on/ Arc Predict / Minimize OS = on / Peak Extend = off / Unattended

Audio Chain
Stealth MachII PC >> Lush^2 USB 1.1m >> NOS1a G3 B75, Driver v1.0.4 (4ms) >> Blaxius^2 >> 10Y DHT Preamp >> 6 way active horn speakers (Single Ended Triodes)
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2016, 10:12:56 pm »

FYI, I got this to work, by following directions here:

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/1523bbbd-e1f1-43f6-8efe-fabe732fa487/problems-connecting-to-windows-10-with-mac-remote-desktop-connection?forum=winRDc

Even though I had just downloaded the RDC client the first one I had was not compatible with Windows 10.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 09:15:05 am »

Paul, thank you for the feedback.

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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 08:10:08 pm »

So... one teensy little hurdle left here.  I can't right-click from RDC on my Mac.  This means I can't do things like:

- Select tracks in the play list, right click, and remove
- Use the right-click menu on the Save button

On the Mac (native), ctrl-click is right click.  This does not work in Windows over RDC.  I have scoured forums and Googled and tried every damn thing to get this silly little thing to work.

So, if anybody is using RDC on a Mac to control their Phasure PC and you've figured out how to transmit a right-click using the Macbook keyboard/track pad, please do enlighten me.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2016, 10:50:04 pm »

Sounds like you should try activating "secondary click" for your mouse on the MAC. I have a MAC and I can right click the mouse because I have that option activated. Right clicking (with this option activated) replace the ctrl click on your MAC and presumably also on your RDC connection.

You can find this option under settings and then mouse.

Seems worth a try to me since the fact that you mention ctrl-click to use sort of tells me that you do not have that option activated.

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 10:55:53 pm »

Sounds like you should try activating "secondary click" for your mouse on the MAC. I have a MAC and I can right click the mouse because I have that option activated. Right clicking (with this option activated) replace the ctrl click on your MAC and presumably also on your RDC connection.

You can find this option under settings and then mouse.

Seems worth a try to me since the fact that you mention ctrl-click to use sort of tells me that you do not have that option activated.

Hans

I use the trackpad, not a mouse - but it has the same option, and I have it enabled (always did).  The two-finger tap just has no effect on the Windows side.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2016, 11:42:42 pm »

I see, but I know MAC has different settings for mouse and trackpad. I am unsure if activating the two finger tap for the trackpad also activates the right click for the mouse. I could easily be wrong but I don't think it does actually (I use both a trackpad and a mouse and I have to set the options separately). Could be worth a try I guess to just connect a mouse to the MAC activate the relevant option for the mouse and see what happens to the RDC.

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2016, 01:25:12 am »

I see, but I know MAC has different settings for mouse and trackpad. I am unsure if activating the two finger tap for the trackpad also activates the right click for the mouse. I could easily be wrong but I don't think it does actually (I use both a trackpad and a mouse and I have to set the options separately). Could be worth a try I guess to just connect a mouse to the MAC activate the relevant option for the mouse and see what happens to the RDC.

Hans

You're implying that RDC will actually make use of mouse settings even when a mouse is not connected (it won't be in normal use).  I kind of doubt that's true, but maybe - RDC seems to be a strange beast in many ways.  I'll give it a try.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2016, 08:04:06 am »

And you are probably right but what I am saying is that I would try it anyway  Wink

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