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« on: February 16, 2016, 10:48:18 am » |
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Hi Peter,
I stumbled into another issue here: when I use Q5 (setting 1 or 5) the music plays normally about 10 minutes and after that suddenly only nasty digital sounds come out of XXHe.
When I use Q5=0: no problem
Best Regards, HW
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 12:21:53 pm » |
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Hmm ...
Not that I ever heard about such a thing (really not), but this should be about your processor's capabilities. I see you have an i3 (which really is not powerful) so there it starts. But you can try another Core Appointment Scheme. Thing of course is : this is nothing nice to try out (and run into the issue again).
With Q5 (but also Q3 and Q4) to other than 0, there's a special "hogging" of the processor going on, and to me it seems that it can not take that (it is not fast enough). But this is only very wild guessing because I never heard of this problem ...
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2016, 03:35:31 pm » |
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Hi Peter,
it wasn't the Q5 setting... Now I'll try with no HDCD clicked... In the past that also gave troubles in the old version
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 01:58:25 pm » |
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Hi Peter, it wasn't the HDCD button also. After that I thought it had to do something with the Coverart, for if I pressed Alt-X, the music continued playing normally again. But first I'll try another button that wasn't there before: the W10 Services button. I set it OFF now, restarted the PC and until now it seems to be OK. Perhaps my Home Edition is not stable if the extra W10 Services are also set OFF? With the Services ON the sound quality stays the same for my ears. Did I already tell you, I like the sound of this XXHe edition very, very much?  Best Regards, HW |
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XXHe 2.11: KS mode: Special, Device Buffersize: 1024; Processor scheme: CORE 3-4; Player Prio: Below Normal, Threadprio: Above Normal, Clock Res.: 10 msec; HDCD on; SFS: 105.19, Mem.Org.: Mixed Cont.; Q's=13x10,0,0,0; PE: Off, Custom: On; Playing Mode: Min.OS; XTweaks= On Indicates: "OPTIMAL": Bal.Load=45, Nervous Rate=99, rest=1 - Sound Gear: Meridian 502 PreAmp (upgraded), 588 CD, 2x 505 MainAmp (upgraded) (all balanced driven), Speakers: Magnepan 3.5 SE, extra: Aphex 204 Aural Exciter; Cables: CD>Pre: Siltech SQ88, PC>Pre & Pre>Dedicated Headphones Class A Amplifier: John van Gent Reference+, Amplifiers>Speakers: Discovery 4; Headphones: AKG K1000 & Ultrasone Pro550 + dedicated Class A amp; Music Dedicated Power Group (copper shielded main cables + Oyade plugs) with parallel noise filter for the main-amps and PS Audio Quintet for the front-end. Analog: Micro Seiki DD33 modified, Denon301
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 03:41:51 pm » |
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Did I already tell you, I like the sound of this XXHe edition very, very much? Did I already tell you, I like the sound of this XXHe edition very, very much? Did I already tell you, I like the sound of this XXHe edition very, very much? I'm not sure ? haha If it is really caused by that W10 button being active ... I sure can imagine it. Notice that the Home version has not been tested and is also not advised (no RDC possible). Besides that ... why ? did you need to buy it and now it was cheaper ? (the latter is a good reason, but since upgrading to W10 is for free ...) Best regards, Peter |
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
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*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2016, 01:42:25 pm » |
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Hi Peter,
well.... the issue isn't over yet. I tried everything in the settings, but after eight minutes or so the sound "collapses" in a sort of digital mess. With the use of some imagination one could hear something of the original music. After using Alt-x the music continues normally. When I use Alt-x before the incident happens (so the UI is visible on the screen), it happens still every time after a while, but hovering with the mousepointer through the UI the music continues. Quite frustrating situation.
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XXHe 2.11: KS mode: Special, Device Buffersize: 1024; Processor scheme: CORE 3-4; Player Prio: Below Normal, Threadprio: Above Normal, Clock Res.: 10 msec; HDCD on; SFS: 105.19, Mem.Org.: Mixed Cont.; Q's=13x10,0,0,0; PE: Off, Custom: On; Playing Mode: Min.OS; XTweaks= On Indicates: "OPTIMAL": Bal.Load=45, Nervous Rate=99, rest=1 - Sound Gear: Meridian 502 PreAmp (upgraded), 588 CD, 2x 505 MainAmp (upgraded) (all balanced driven), Speakers: Magnepan 3.5 SE, extra: Aphex 204 Aural Exciter; Cables: CD>Pre: Siltech SQ88, PC>Pre & Pre>Dedicated Headphones Class A Amplifier: John van Gent Reference+, Amplifiers>Speakers: Discovery 4; Headphones: AKG K1000 & Ultrasone Pro550 + dedicated Class A amp; Music Dedicated Power Group (copper shielded main cables + Oyade plugs) with parallel noise filter for the main-amps and PS Audio Quintet for the front-end. Analog: Micro Seiki DD33 modified, Denon301
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2016, 02:04:06 pm » |
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Hey HW, With the use of some imagination one could hear something of the original music. It is very good that you say this, because it provides some clues (of where not to be). What is your SFS set at ? How do things change when you set that to 60 ? Regards, Peter |
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).
For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 02:18:18 pm » |
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Hi Peter,
I will do that. (The settings are mostly as in my profile)
But.. what I forgot to mention is that when it happens and I press Alt-x, after repressing the UI again, the music (most of the time) stays OK for the rest of the time.
The troubles start Always after a restart of my PC.
Another thing: I mentioned earlier the hovering with the mouse. This "stutters" a bit while sweeping.
Now I will restart after setting the SFS to 60 and get back to you later
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XXHe 2.11: KS mode: Special, Device Buffersize: 1024; Processor scheme: CORE 3-4; Player Prio: Below Normal, Threadprio: Above Normal, Clock Res.: 10 msec; HDCD on; SFS: 105.19, Mem.Org.: Mixed Cont.; Q's=13x10,0,0,0; PE: Off, Custom: On; Playing Mode: Min.OS; XTweaks= On Indicates: "OPTIMAL": Bal.Load=45, Nervous Rate=99, rest=1 - Sound Gear: Meridian 502 PreAmp (upgraded), 588 CD, 2x 505 MainAmp (upgraded) (all balanced driven), Speakers: Magnepan 3.5 SE, extra: Aphex 204 Aural Exciter; Cables: CD>Pre: Siltech SQ88, PC>Pre & Pre>Dedicated Headphones Class A Amplifier: John van Gent Reference+, Amplifiers>Speakers: Discovery 4; Headphones: AKG K1000 & Ultrasone Pro550 + dedicated Class A amp; Music Dedicated Power Group (copper shielded main cables + Oyade plugs) with parallel noise filter for the main-amps and PS Audio Quintet for the front-end. Analog: Micro Seiki DD33 modified, Denon301
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2016, 02:37:15 pm » |
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No Peter. With SFS=60: after a while the issue got back.
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XXHe 2.11: KS mode: Special, Device Buffersize: 1024; Processor scheme: CORE 3-4; Player Prio: Below Normal, Threadprio: Above Normal, Clock Res.: 10 msec; HDCD on; SFS: 105.19, Mem.Org.: Mixed Cont.; Q's=13x10,0,0,0; PE: Off, Custom: On; Playing Mode: Min.OS; XTweaks= On Indicates: "OPTIMAL": Bal.Load=45, Nervous Rate=99, rest=1 - Sound Gear: Meridian 502 PreAmp (upgraded), 588 CD, 2x 505 MainAmp (upgraded) (all balanced driven), Speakers: Magnepan 3.5 SE, extra: Aphex 204 Aural Exciter; Cables: CD>Pre: Siltech SQ88, PC>Pre & Pre>Dedicated Headphones Class A Amplifier: John van Gent Reference+, Amplifiers>Speakers: Discovery 4; Headphones: AKG K1000 & Ultrasone Pro550 + dedicated Class A amp; Music Dedicated Power Group (copper shielded main cables + Oyade plugs) with parallel noise filter for the main-amps and PS Audio Quintet for the front-end. Analog: Micro Seiki DD33 modified, Denon301
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2016, 02:42:12 pm » |
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I have no problem with a W10 upgrade to Professional, but I'm not sure this will help: I already let the W10 services which can be set off stay on...
I'm not sure when this all started. When I did the upgrade all worked well for some days.
I think it all started when I fiddled a bit with the Xtweaks. But after that I set these in the earlier settings and after trying XXHe denotes OPTIMAL
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XXHe 2.11: KS mode: Special, Device Buffersize: 1024; Processor scheme: CORE 3-4; Player Prio: Below Normal, Threadprio: Above Normal, Clock Res.: 10 msec; HDCD on; SFS: 105.19, Mem.Org.: Mixed Cont.; Q's=13x10,0,0,0; PE: Off, Custom: On; Playing Mode: Min.OS; XTweaks= On Indicates: "OPTIMAL": Bal.Load=45, Nervous Rate=99, rest=1 - Sound Gear: Meridian 502 PreAmp (upgraded), 588 CD, 2x 505 MainAmp (upgraded) (all balanced driven), Speakers: Magnepan 3.5 SE, extra: Aphex 204 Aural Exciter; Cables: CD>Pre: Siltech SQ88, PC>Pre & Pre>Dedicated Headphones Class A Amplifier: John van Gent Reference+, Amplifiers>Speakers: Discovery 4; Headphones: AKG K1000 & Ultrasone Pro550 + dedicated Class A amp; Music Dedicated Power Group (copper shielded main cables + Oyade plugs) with parallel noise filter for the main-amps and PS Audio Quintet for the front-end. Analog: Micro Seiki DD33 modified, Denon301
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2016, 04:03:53 pm » |
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No Peter. With SFS=60: after a while the issue got back. I just can't imagine what is going on then. If this is happening, do you have the feeling that the sound is way more "slow" ? I mean, supposed you'd let play a track which is 2 minutes, does it last 2 minutes ? or merely 10 minutes or so ? (I estimate that you can hear by the sound it produces what it's going to be). I'm just trying to guess what you actually hear (for my recognition). Peter PS: No, I am not claiming that Pro will help; only that Home is an unknown variable at this moment. |
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).
For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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hwk
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2016, 07:50:02 pm » |
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Hi Peter,
No, normal sounding music. The music plays normally for 8-9 minutes. No hickups or other stuff. Just beautifull sounding music. Then suddenly a sort of digitally IIIIIIh, AAAAAh, OOOOh sound with a sort of rhythm of the music. No messages of any kind. When I then press Alt-X the music continues normally (off course the UI of the player pops up). And the music seems te haved moved on while the wrong sound was playing.
My friend Johan suggested to play the music without Engine 3. I'll try that.
It still is strange: "and I press Alt-x, after repressing the UI again, the music (most of the time) stays OK for the rest of the time."
I'll get back to you later
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XXHe 2.11: KS mode: Special, Device Buffersize: 1024; Processor scheme: CORE 3-4; Player Prio: Below Normal, Threadprio: Above Normal, Clock Res.: 10 msec; HDCD on; SFS: 105.19, Mem.Org.: Mixed Cont.; Q's=13x10,0,0,0; PE: Off, Custom: On; Playing Mode: Min.OS; XTweaks= On Indicates: "OPTIMAL": Bal.Load=45, Nervous Rate=99, rest=1 - Sound Gear: Meridian 502 PreAmp (upgraded), 588 CD, 2x 505 MainAmp (upgraded) (all balanced driven), Speakers: Magnepan 3.5 SE, extra: Aphex 204 Aural Exciter; Cables: CD>Pre: Siltech SQ88, PC>Pre & Pre>Dedicated Headphones Class A Amplifier: John van Gent Reference+, Amplifiers>Speakers: Discovery 4; Headphones: AKG K1000 & Ultrasone Pro550 + dedicated Class A amp; Music Dedicated Power Group (copper shielded main cables + Oyade plugs) with parallel noise filter for the main-amps and PS Audio Quintet for the front-end. Analog: Micro Seiki DD33 modified, Denon301
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2016, 08:06:25 pm » |
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Without Engine3 is not possible...
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Music Dedicated PC, Power: Silverstone Nightjar 300, MB: ASRock H87M Pro4 + I5 4570T + 4GB, Internal Memory: 16Gb Kingston DDR3-1333, 500Gb Crucial MX500 SSD with W10 Build 14393.0, 2x 4Tb WD 40EZRZ HDD for Music only), Soundcard: Seriously Modified Prodigy HD2 PCI Card 24 Bit/192 KHz with Amplimo's (van GooiPC), W10 10586-11 Home Edition 64bit
XXHe 2.11: KS mode: Special, Device Buffersize: 1024; Processor scheme: CORE 3-4; Player Prio: Below Normal, Threadprio: Above Normal, Clock Res.: 10 msec; HDCD on; SFS: 105.19, Mem.Org.: Mixed Cont.; Q's=13x10,0,0,0; PE: Off, Custom: On; Playing Mode: Min.OS; XTweaks= On Indicates: "OPTIMAL": Bal.Load=45, Nervous Rate=99, rest=1 - Sound Gear: Meridian 502 PreAmp (upgraded), 588 CD, 2x 505 MainAmp (upgraded) (all balanced driven), Speakers: Magnepan 3.5 SE, extra: Aphex 204 Aural Exciter; Cables: CD>Pre: Siltech SQ88, PC>Pre & Pre>Dedicated Headphones Class A Amplifier: John van Gent Reference+, Amplifiers>Speakers: Discovery 4; Headphones: AKG K1000 & Ultrasone Pro550 + dedicated Class A amp; Music Dedicated Power Group (copper shielded main cables + Oyade plugs) with parallel noise filter for the main-amps and PS Audio Quintet for the front-end. Analog: Micro Seiki DD33 modified, Denon301
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2016, 07:45:09 am » |
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I had similar problem and it seems to have been cured by going back to normal OS & then straight back to min OS. http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=3538.msg37770#msg37770On another PC I've just installed XXHE on i3 W10586.0 Home and so far it works fine but not yet activated so Q5=2 and normal OS at moment. to disable Defender in W10 Home needs a registry edit other methods did not work. http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/5918-windows-defender-turn-off-windows-10-a.html option 2 Colin |
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Apr'20 :- XX2.11/W10_14393.0, MachIII RAM-OS, Music PC, RDC control by W10 Netbook, Ram Disks, min OS ,Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / Decode HDCD / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = RT / Scheme = *Core 3-5* / Switch Processors during Playback / ClockRes = 15ms / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 34 / Nervous Rate = 10 / Cool when Idle = 0 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 30/-/1/1/1/ Q1Factor = 1 / Memory = Straight Contiguous / SFS = 10 / Include Garbage Collect / UnAttended /Do Not Start Playback / All Services Off / Monitor off @ unattended / Custom Filter192 Sample Rate /Minidsp SHD Studio with DIRAC / -> 24 bit DDDAC1794 NOS DAC -> Quad ESL989 with upgrades and PV1 Subwoofer
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2016, 09:03:26 am » |
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I again come to the same as my first suggestion : processor core scheme. Change it.
I guess it is that, already because a. you didn't respond to that and b. you don't have it mentioned in your sig (that I see at a glance). Haha.
At the same time also change this :
Nervous Rate to 1 (in XTweaks);
ClockRes to 1.
If it helps then you can sort out which of these three it is.
Colin's suggestion is also good although vague (there is no reason that such a thing should help, but anything can have happened by self-tweaking in MinOS which gets (or can get) undone at going back to normal OS).
But the suggestion is good because it helped him and is harmless (and quick) to do.
Regards,
Peter
PS: I didn't really get an answer on my question about the playing time during the distortion.
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13* (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).
For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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