xxdata location

[coliny]

With ramdisk RAMA copies C:\XXDATA to A:\XXDATA

But instruction for settings say to make Data Folder C:\XXDATA so does A:\XXDATA folder actually get used ?

Colin

[PeterSt]

Hi Colin,

Your question is undoubtedly a good one. Unfortunately you apply a byte too much of English for me to understand.
Can you rephrase a bit or two ?

Thanks,
Peter

[coliny]

Hi peter

To put it another way

From the 'using ram disk' tutorial:-
Now, in order to preserve the important settings during our playback sessions, we need to change that \XXData\ into C:\XXData (see Data Folder in XXHighEnd Settings).
When this has been applied, a lot of things will be preserved at system shutdown, which otherwise are lost. No need to explain exactly which, but just apply this change.

With this setting I don't think the copy of xxdata created by RAMA.bat @ A:\XXDATA is needed.

Colin

[PeterSt]

Ah ...

Colin, you may tell me from which Tutorial this actually is (I did not try to find it - just saying).

This is a tad more complicated than it it seems. Also, this text seems old to me or is without context, or is without context which exists today but was not when the Tutorial was created.

... I had more text here but scratched it because I first need to know what it is you exactly read (and where).
Also, my scratched text contained too much of references to new functionality with the OS booted from RAM, which is related to the general idea about working from RAM which in the end is the same for a RAMDisk like you are referring to and the OS booted from RAM I am using.

It is vague at this moment as I just have been reading in the program itself for 20 minutes about what situations all overrule others.
I better rewrite the Tutorials of concern with some decent thinking.

Regards,
Peter

[coliny]

Hi Peter

Its in here: http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=2695.msg27850#msg27850

but now I see it says its replaced by this one: http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=2915.msg30750#msg30750

however that one does not say anything about XXData location.

Rama.bat says to use C:\XXDATA\

Colin

[PeterSt]

Hi Colin,

It can be a matter of symantics and (my) language. But this is all what's in RAMA.bat about it (downloaded from the topic you referred to (the newer one)) :
(better skip because in aftermath (reading back this post) it's almost a word game)

REM \XXData is assumed to be your XX Data Folder (see Settings).
md a:\XXData

REM And your XXData folder is assumed to be on c:\
xcopy c:\XXData\*.* a:\XXData\*.*

To me (my English) this says nothing about "what to use". It also does not say antything about how to fill the Settings of concern.

If I say "is assumed to be" then I say this to explain the line of code (the xcopy line) below it.

But also :

Rama.bat says to use C:\XXDATA\

With that you probably suggest that this line of comment implies that the copy is to be performed anyway and THUS that I suggest to use that in the first place. Now *that* would be true and it is consistent with this line :

REM \XXData is assumed to be your XX Data Folder (see Settings).

... where I imply that in Settings literally "\XXData\" is held and THUS suggest that this is excplicitly not "C:\XXData\". This follows from this line :

REM And your XXData folder is assumed to be on c:\

... or otherwise one of the two (last discussed) would have been moot.
I'm afraid this is my "IT brain" working it out like this;
Consistent it is, but whether readable/understandable ?

But this is also how I need to rewrite the (or a) Tutorial about it. Now it is not about understanding and it is also qjuite difficult (like what you quoted from me - the "just do it and don't ask" (similar)). I couldn't explain it in my (scratched) text of yesterday either.

Btw, I indeed have \XData\ in my Settings. It relates to the "Copy Settings to" field (higher up in Settings) which is filled with my XX folder (not the XXData folder).
Just do that and you're good. Haha. (technically the drive mentioned in that field, is injected in the "\XXData\" setting).
In this case no C: drive is accessed during playback or even the start of playback (OS disk keeps quiet, assumed that the XX folder is on that). Only when a reboot or shutdown is performed through XXHighEnd the lot is saved to permanent storage.
I think.


Peter

[coliny]

Hi Peter

Sorry I still don't understand, with for example :-
C:\XXHE\
C:\XXDATA\
& ramdisk
A:\XXHE\
A:\XXDATA\

what are your settings for:-
Copy settings to:
Data folder:

Thanks
Colin

[PeterSt]

C:\XXHE\
and
\XXData\

... with the notice that I said "I think" at the end, meaning :
I use the OS from RAM as a whole and not a RAMDisk. However, the coding (comment) says that both RAMDisk and OS from RAM are "now" exactly the same. It it only that "now" will be the upcoming 2.04 and I don't like to sort out how it was for 2.03.

And don't take me too literally because the first line above in my case really is
X:\XXHE\
So *that* applies to the OS from RAM situation.

The
\XXData\
is made into
X:\Data\
because of this first line and the X: in there, but only when nothing else is there already (like your suggested C:).

So at shut down all is saved to X:, which is the permanent storage at that moment (but inject the HDD/SSD).

What I am not sure about is the moment of saving of data to your C:\XXData\ (normal RAMDisk situation) because it just as well can be so that this happens at Quitting of XXHighEnd.
That would, I think, pretty much come down to your suggestion of entering C:\XXData\ in Settings in the first place, and leave out the copying of C:\XXData to A:\XXData.
But no guarantees, because I did not design it like that. Still it could work. Just watch for ALL to come back as how it was left when you start playback fo Unattended. But also watch the situation after a reboot *without* further explicit saving of the RAMDisk contents (people tend to do this because they think it is necessary ... which it is when this is all setup wrongly).

Lastly, the design strategy here is that the OS disk can be ejected - and this has been so for two years. It is only that I managed with that only recently and that since then some fine tuning is in order (like again for 2.04).
Otherwise I like "one procedure for all" because of all the (quite ad-hoc) boot situations I am working on right now (See below for what's conincidentally on my screen - XXHighEnd shows 10 boots to choose from - work in progress).

Peter

[coliny]

Hi Peter

OK its clear now with Data Folder: \xxdata\
with ramdisk this is actually A:\xxdata\ and without ramdisk its C:\xxdata\
so no need to edit Data Folder entry. Settings are saved either way.

Thanks
Colin