And now my sound is SCARY

[PeterSt]

Hi All,

Since last Monday I have a new tweak operational.
Btw, later we will see that I posted in the wrong board (Thoughts about the Sound Quality as of now) and that this has to (has been) moved to elsewhere.

At the first day I recall that one of the first albums I played was Tusk (Fleetwood Mac). And, that I didn't recognize a thing of THAT album. So go figure. All very very strange.
(I played it for the first half only)

The second day I was trying to find my ways (what to play to test this all) and what I recall of that is that I tried a few different XXHighEnd settings which didn't help really for something which could be strange. But was it strange ?

The third day I really liked it. I don't know why. Probably because the "strangeness" didn't/doesn't incur for a flavor (and as we know I hate favors).

I have been thinking about burning in being in order, but once you know what I did ...

Fourth day was yesterday (I skipped one day this week) and possibly I needed the help of a visitor who came by to collect his NOS1a upgrade.

Well, I'm actually asking my vistor from yesterday to jump in and confirm a bit, because it maybe was a bit too crazy to be true. I will try to explain ...

At some stage we play Stanley Clarke. Just to see how an electric bass is working with this "version". Within a few seconds I hear myself say "this is scary". But "scary what" ?

As usual being bothered by not knowing English really, try to think about what Thriller (Michael Jackson) is supposed to do, but also envision the video clip of it). Thus, literally scary. And explicitly NOT the "scary" as how we would use it in Dutch for audio in the sense of scaringly good. No, something you get afraid of.
But what to get afraid of when listening to a random Stanley Clarke track ? Well, not sure yet (though see more below) but let's remember how a Tusk album can become unrecognizable. So something is going on and it is so strange ...

Maybe it was the humidity or something else I'm not aware of (that is not under our control), but indeed all sounded very very good yesterday. Maybe this was because of my more explicit focus because of the visitor (it's about the only time when I listen super seriously - when a visitor is there), but I noticed very strange things in the most familar tracks (say those I could play each two weeks). And now I am writing this, it is again about the louder and softer I wrote about for W10 in general (about Neil Young's varying distance to the microphone) but now at a different level. Unexplainable, but think like someone singing in front ot the microphone and when his/her sentence has been sung, he/she steps away from the microphone for 3 feet. So it really becomes totally silent when the singing stops. And of course, singers really do this (step away). But I never heard it, and now heard it in everything.
A first glimpse of "scary" now emerges, because somehow this creates a tense. But this can even be suspense ...

As a final thing we played an "ambient" track, which is synthesizers and stuff and this gave the big bang. Ok, the literal scary bang;

Again this is a track in the category "play each two weeks", but this time I thought "okaayyy and when do we start ?". Too saltless or so (the track is over 9 minutes). I experienced this as the explicit silence, similar to the singer stepping away from the microphone). This time though no singing in order anyway, so what's up with this ... well, yea, something *is* playing of course. I must say that all what was playing for "background" was mainly sub low. Roars (say 26Hz and lower).
Then after two minutes or whatever of too long silence in my view, things started to happen. And NOW it was literally scary. I found myself to be in a movie without pictures (meaning : no imagination in order) with now not only tense but even suspense. Very interesting but uncomfortable at the same time. Interested in the next 10 seconds, but maybe scared for the result, which is without pictures anyway. Was I being hypnosed ? What actually causes this all ? Is it the very fine high pitched sounds which keep on playing right through the more rough sounds (I really noticed that as quite impossible). Was it the 110bpm type of beat which had been there for a minute or 2 ? (this IS hypnotizing).
I really coulnd't tell.

And still this is only 10% of the real big bang, which latter only came after I stopped the track after 6 or so minutes ...

Envision two guys which within the second after playback was stopped in choir - and out of breath - tell each other the exact same things (even in the same sequence). It started with "shhhhhhhh**t - SCARY".
We talked about how it actually could be possible that such a thing was put in there on purpose. And many more of these vague things but which all were brought up by us *both* anyway. No coincidences in sight !

But try to envision - for my visitor this was an unknown track. For me it was a track I play each two weeks. Still we both were as enthusiastic and surprised about it. Not the slightest less with me.
And so something can happen that even makes Tusk unrecognizable.

Peter

[Gerard]

Hi All,

Since last Monday I have a new tweak operational.
Btw, later we will see that I posted in the wrong board (Thoughts about the Sound Quality as of now) and that this has to (has been) moved to elsewhere.

At the first day I recall that one of the first albums I played was Tusk (Fleetwood Mac). And, that I didn't recognize a thing of THAT album. So go figure. All very very strange.
(I played it for the first half only)

The second day I was trying to find my ways (what to play to test this all) and what I recall of that is that I tried a few different XXHighEnd settings which didn't help really for something which could be strange. But was it strange ?

The third day I really liked it. I don't know why. Probably because the "strangeness" didn't/doesn't incur for a flavor (and as we know I hate favors).

I have been thinking about burning in being in order, but once you know what I did ...

Fourth day was yesterday (I skipped one day this week) and possibly I needed the help of a visitor who came by to collect his NOS1a upgrade.

Well, I'm actually asking my vistor from yesterday to jump in and confirm a bit, because it maybe was a bit too crazy to be true. I will try to explain ...

At some stage we play Stanley Clarke. Just to see how an electric bass is working with this "version". Within a few seconds I hear myself say "this is scary". But "scary what" ?

As usual being bothered by not knowing English really, try to think about what Thriller (Michael Jackson) is supposed to do, but also envision the video clip of it). Thus, literally scary. And explicitly NOT the "scary" as how we would use it in Dutch for audio in the sense of scaringly good. No, something you get afraid of.
But what to get afraid of when listening to a random Stanley Clarke track ? Well, not sure yet (though see more below) but let's remember how a Tusk album can become unrecognizable. So something is going on and it is so strange ...

Maybe it was the humidity or something else I'm not aware of (that is not under our control), but indeed all sounded very very good yesterday. Maybe this was because of my more explicit focus because of the visitor (it's about the only time when I listen super seriously - when a visitor is there), but I noticed very strange things in the most familar tracks (say those I could play each two weeks). And now I am writing this, it is again about the louder and softer I wrote about for W10 in general (about Neil Young's varying distance to the microphone) but now at a different level. Unexplainable, but think like someone singing in front ot the microphone and when his/her sentence has been sung, he/she steps away from the microphone for 3 feet. So it really becomes totally silent when the singing stops. And of course, singers really do this (step away). But I never heard it, and now heard it in everything.
A first glimpse of "scary" now emerges, because somehow this creates a tense. But this can even be suspense ...

As a final thing we played an "ambient" track, which is synthesizers and stuff and this gave the big bang. Ok, the literal scary bang;

Again this is a track in the category "play each two weeks", but this time I thought "okaayyy and when do we start ?". Too saltless or so (the track is over 9 minutes). I experienced this as the explicit silence, similar to the singer stepping away from the microphone). This time though no singing in order anyway, so what's up with this ... well, yea, something *is* playing of course. I must say that all what was playing for "background" was mainly sub low. Roars (say 26Hz and lower).
Then after two minutes or whatever of too long silence in my view, things started to happen. And NOW it was literally scary. I found myself to be in a movie without pictures (meaning : no imagination in order) with now not only tense but even suspense. Very interesting but uncomfortable at the same time. Interested in the next 10 seconds, but maybe scared for the result, which is without pictures anyway. Was I being hypnosed ? What actually causes this all ? Is it the very fine high pitched sounds which keep on playing right through the more rough sounds (I really noticed that as quite impossible). Was it the 110bpm type of beat which had been there for a minute or 2 ? (this IS hypnotizing).
I really coulnd't tell.

And still this is only 10% of the real big bang, which latter only came after I stopped the track after 6 or so minutes ...

Envision two guys which within the second after playback was stopped in choir - and out of breath - tell each other the exact same things (even in the same sequence). It started with "shhhhhhhh**t - SCARY".
We talked about how it actually could be possible that such a thing was put in there on purpose. And many more of these vague things but which all were brought up by us *both* anyway. No coincidences in sight !

But try to envision - for my visitor this was an unknown track. For me it was a track I play each two weeks. Still we both were as enthusiastic and surprised about it. Not the slightest less with me.
And so something can happen that even makes Tusk unrecognizable.

Peter

Yes!! Something fun again 

[PeterSt]

Hint : For you it can work, Gerard. But not for all.

[JohanZ]

For me too? 

[PeterSt]

No Johan, not for you.

[PeterSt]

No Johan, not for you.

Or maybe. It is a bit diffcult to see (through). Difficult to test as well.

Peter

[AlainGr]

Scary... As in Halloween haunted music ? Like a rabbit would say, "I am all ears" But no carrot to eat while playing music... It masks the low level details

Alain

[PeterSt]

[Gerard]

Hint : For you it can work, Gerard. But not for all.

So NOS1a related 

[AlainGr]

Ha ha ! This pumpkin has lots of definition and such an expression ! Now I am getting hungry

Alain

[Leo]

Time for the visitor during the SCARY sound session to speak. I have had the opportunity to visit Peters place several times  since the NOS first emerged. Every time I come away with the feeling that this must be the maximum that can be achieved with the playback of prerecorded music. But this time I was really overwhelmed. First by a Ray Brown and Almeida piece that has a very special personal importance for me. I have heard that many many times as I bring it along for demo's for years and years. In the middle the bowed bass goes really low and for me this time, the bass of Ray Brown sounded better than ever. By far. And then this ambience piece, a type of music that never touches me, only on a more rational level trying to figure out what a audio system is capable off. This time this music/these sounds were so involving , I was really being drawn into it, it was scary enough to raise the hair on my arms. Later parts were more 'normal' and so to me less interesting. And then Peter and I started to talk almost at the same time to say how scary it had been. That was a bit scary in itself. Amazing realism. And I am warned for the next visit! Never believe that Peter is finished yet in getting his audio thing better and better. What fun and privilege it is to be a witness to this journey.

[PeterSt]

Ah, Visitor-Leo ... thank you for the nice read !

Next time more ...
Peter

[PeterSt]

[Gerard]

Hahaha

[rakeshpoorun]

Sorry to intrude on what appears to be a private joke being shared between host and guest but I could not help noticing "Windows 10  Preview 10074 RAM Version" being selected.

Is this Windows 10 OS in Ramdisk?  It can't be surely?...

Rgds
Rakesh