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« on: February 11, 2015, 07:00:27 pm »

Hi,
I read this passage:
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Since I was expecting Harry Pearson to be a human being and not a mythical character, other than that odd sensation of feeling his feeling my disappointment with him, I was not at all disappointed—though I was taken aback by the size of the mythical listening room in which he had the giant Infinity IRS loudspeakers and Goldmund Reference turntable. The room was barely large enough to contain the speakers! You sat but a few feet from these enormous monoliths. How could this sound any good? But as soon as he put on a record I heard good that was way gooder than anything I'd ever before heard and those four giant columns completely disappeared leaving a holographic three dimensional picture the likes of which I'd never before heard.

here:  www.analogplanet.com/content/audio-legend-harry-pearson-passes-away

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My speakers (not tilted) are 2,20m apart and my new listening position is now 1,5m away from the plan of the speakers and I hear that “holographic three dimensional picture”. I’m sitting just in front of the soundstage.

It seems that my listening room is too big and I have to move the components into a smaller room.

Joachim
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2015, 03:54:48 pm »

Joachim, you could use the toilet perhaps. But then the "toilet test" won't work any more !

Peter
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2015, 05:51:06 pm »

Joachim, you could use the toilet perhaps. But then the "toilet test" won't work any more !

Peter

Peter, be open minded please Wink

Pearson, Michael Fremer and some/many others are using their big speakers as “near field” monitors, and then you hear the “output” from the recording room (plus possible colorations from the system) only. The SQ is amazing and you are sitting in the middle of the performance.

Now I understand why Mani is so enthusiastic with his AKG K1000 headphones. Happy Happy

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2015, 06:59:34 pm »

Bingo - you did not get my joke (once again).
Haha, 1-1.

But FYI : with my speakers 6m apart, I can happily listen on the couche 4 meters from them (all still being OK as how it is these days). It is only that I don't like to sit on that couche as I don't even like to sit anywhere.
So I'm always in the kitchen (you know the distance how that is over here) and there is no room in the kitchen for the speakers.
Anyway, I like the large room etc. better.

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Peter
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2015, 07:16:58 pm »

Bingo - you did not get my joke (once again).
Haha, 1-1.

Regards,
Peter

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2015, 05:37:06 pm »

Now I understand why Mani is so enthusiastic with his AKG K1000 headphones. Happy Happy

Hi Joachim, I still am very enthusiastic about my K1000 headphones, but having adjusted the response of the Orelo speakers to my room, I have to say that I suspect the K1000s will get used quite a lot less Happy

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