NOS1 Upgrade contains ...

[manisandher]

Hey Peter, greetings from the UK... finally back at home! Unlike Nick, I have no comment on what you've done internally - I'm sure it's all been well thought through. But I love the external change. Now just because my NOS1 is white, I totally expect to see this on mine too.

Mani.

[PeterSt]

Now just because my NOS1 is white, I totally expect to see this on mine too.

Mani, sorry, that can't be done with white sheep.

[manisandher]

Haha... I love it!

Mani.

[PeterSt]

Stupid DAC this is ...

Maybe people recall that at some stage I started to use a new NOS1 and that I applied some "tweak" which right out pf the box already sounded better than my well burned in good old one. At the time I could not mention the "NOS1a" planned version, and at that time I could not even know that would succeed (but in lab setup it worked).
I forgot, but this is now something like two months ago.
Really really struggled the first few weeks, especially around day 5.
Since 3 weeks or so things seem stable and I think I hear improvement each day.

With all these upgrade arrangements of the past few weeks, a first two new ones were made (in NOS1a fashion). I couldn't do much with that other than checking/measuring all to infinity. Yesterday though a first upgraded one was finished, and that was a well burned in one - the one with the Golden a (picture in previous post). So I nicely asked Mani wheter it was allowed to officially listen to it.

OMG.

At really the very first note coming from it - a strike on a Spanish Guitar - I already saw how a 100 times more clear this burned in DAC is. Creepy to put it mildly.
Throughout the remainder of the evening I heard back the "infinite highs" (meaning : can't go wrong no matter how loud). But also way more bass energy. Shaking actually. Dangerously loud.
Side note for Arjan : Remember that small piece of Gregorian we played ? that now hammers on the chest with its maybe 70Hz background (???) organ.

So ... I already told it a couple of times ... When you play something after a year into your NOS1 which you only played in the beginning after the 30 day burn in period, it comes to you as a "what has changed ?!?". And I just experienced that still crazy difference. How fuzzy that 60 day burned in still sounds ...

Now I have to ask PeterSt ... Can I be on the list to have my blue NOS1 upgraded to NOS1a please ?
Thank you,
Peter

[CoenP]

Haha! Just wait in line with the rest of us!

Now the big question is: what will it sound like when the upgrade itself is burned-in....

Conclusions after another 12 month?

regards, Coen

[PeterSt]

I solved the solution of being at the end of the list :
Each day a NOS1a upgrade is finished I first measure it and then use it for the night for listening; When we're out of upgrades to do, it will be my turn automatically.

Peter

[fmanheck]

So speaking of NOS1a upgrades and the list. How far along are we? Of course what I really mean is where am I on the list now  

You are all making me eager and impatient with these SQ posts

[PeterSt]

Hi Fred and everyone,

We barely started and today only a 4th will go out (2 of those were new ones). So Fred, you were 15th and now you should be the 13th on the list.

By now I think we can say that we can do 2 in 3 working days (so one takes 1.5 day). But this assumes no problems to begin with and it is not correct to assume this is always so.

What I also saw by now is that planning all in a fashion that people are out of music for a minimum number of days is tough. I mean, it is quite out of control what all shipping times are from all over the world and I feel that everybody should be asked one week in advance to official working-on schedule to send out. But this may mean an addtional week of being out of music. Still it has to go something like this because otherwise - when we let depend all nicely and neat on the sequence of received NOS1's - it will take a lot of latency between jobs. So then it takes ages longer before all have been done.

At least we seem to be in the swing of it now, so it flows.
Regards,
Peter

[PeterSt]

Yo all,

From this post : Re: NOS1 Upgrade contains ... I can derive that the Monday after that post a first NOS1a was ready. This was at June 1.
Minutes ago a 9th left and today is the last day of the month. So 9 in say 4 weeks or 20 days. That is just over 2 days for one.

Some went smoothless others did not at all for various reasons and which reasons are to be considered part of the job (like a DIY shortcutting the lot and send it in for repair ). Anyway by now it seems decent to use these statistics.

Regarding the official list we have 3 in-house at this moment and official number 9 on the list (you will know who you are) will be invited by the end of the week to send his NOS1 by upcoming Monday.

Reasons typically for people virtually shift downward in the official list :
- New NOS1a's (or NOS1's);
- People who bought the Orelo speakers;
- Emergency situations like the DYI example given.

Meanwhile we try to do other things as well some times and vacation could be one of those.

Anyway the speculated ~2 days in advance turns out to be rather well esitimated, although I hope we have learned quite a bit from errors we can make seen from how measurements look and have ready answers instead of looking on a scope for a day what can have happened. So things should go faster than the just over 2 days per one like the average is now.

Regards,
Peter

[PeterSt]

The NOS1 upgrade is of course on my schedule, just waiting for the queue to slim down.

Hi Pedal, small warning :

You can try that, but it only gets longer and longer. So on my serious estimation this "slim down" will happen in a year or so. I am serious ...
I do not notify anyone explicitly so it goes very graduate and easy at this moment but with the notice that on estimate 80% of owners never even look in the forum often.

Currently the list is 38 with 11 out (edit : but 12th ready). So 38-11 = 27 to go at this moment and 35 days ago it was also 27 to go. So in 35 days 11 were added and almost nothing changed for the waiting time (this also fits the 3 days per upgrade for throughput I ever estimated).

Peter

[pedal]

Well, then I hereby sign up and order the upgrade!

PS: I am turning 50 on October 15th, so that will make a nice present for myself! 

[PeterSt]

Ha !

Currently the list is 38

Even that was a mistake and it was 39. But you see, now the list is 40. Your fault.

Anyway, mentioned 27 should be 28 (because one ready here although not out plus yours), thus 28 x 3 = ... 84. That divided by 5 for working days = ... almost 17 weeks. Say 4 months. July 12 plus 4 months = ...
undoable.
The 3 days is maximum throughput. 2 days is minimum. so 28 x 2 = 56 = 11 weeks = say 1 week less than 3 months = ... still quite undoable.

One solution : bribe yourself higher up the list. Shall I list a few which I think are bribable ? haha

But I also see 2 or 3 persons in the list who want to be later than your 15th. That taken into account ... critical but doable.

Blahblahblah.
Thank you !
Peter

[pedal]

Thanks, Peter.

If not birthday present, there is the chance for x-mas present shortly after! 

And, mind you, I do NOT suffer the least now. The sound quality made a huge leap with XX 1.186-a and after I dialled in the settings in my signature. I am so happy with the SQ. Everything fell into place. It is just "perfect".

But, after 35 years in this game, I know of course that the progress never stops...

[Nick]

Peter hi,

Can I check that I made I to the NOS1a upgrade list ?

http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=2965.msg31446#msg31446

Many thanks.

Nick.

[PeterSt]

Hi Nick,

You are the single only one I never confirmed. Probably this is because you never responded to my email in the first place. Haha.

From where I am now I can't see the exact position, but it will be 30+. Of course I can look later today ...

So no worries !
Peter