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« on: January 09, 2014, 02:45:18 pm »

Peter,

I'm just wondering if it would be possible to automatically re-start certain services on quit.

Specifically I'd like to re-start the Windows Audio Service because I want to run another player for DSD only and that requires it.

This would save me going into services and manually restarting it, together with its two dependencies each time.

Even better might be the ability for the user to choose exactly which services get restarted on quit.

Obviously when running XX again, all the services requested to be stopped should be stopped as usual at unattended.

Thanks for considering it.

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 04:14:07 pm »

Geoff,

Keep WASAPI services before booting into MinOS, and once in MinOS shut deactivate that button again (so, Not Keep WASAPI services then). Then play as usual (Unattended assumed).
That would do pretty much what you ask for.

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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 10:17:50 pm »

Thanks Peter. I'm not sure if that would accomplish exactly what I'm after though.

I want to do all this in Min OS, because I want to keep as much minimised as possible when I run JR for DSD.

This seems to benefit SQ there as well.

That's why I just want WASAPI restored when I'm in still in Min OS without rebooting in and out of Min OS.

I hope I explained it better this time.

Geoff
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 11:30:38 pm »

I understood Geoff.
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 05:52:39 am »

I ended up writing two old-school batch files for a similar purpose, albeit a lower-fidelity one (listening to rdio).  When I'm done with XXHE and I want to stream, I run "Start Windows Audio".  When I want to go back to XXHE (without a reboot) I run "Stop Windows Audio".  This is easier than digging through the services control panel.

The commands in both batch files are listed below:

1 - Start Windows Audio.bat
@net start "Windows Audio"

2 - Stop Windows Audio.bat
@net stop "Windows Audio"
@net stop "Windows Audio Endpoint Builder"

These work for me under W7 64 Pro.  Starting the "Windows Audio" service in #1 also starts the "Endpoint Builder" automatically. See attached files to save some typing.

* Start Windows Audio.bat (0.03 KB - downloaded 584 times.)
* Stop Windows Audio.bat (0.07 KB - downloaded 576 times.)
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2014-02-22 (1.186a) Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 [binaries on SSD, data on 7200RPM HD], Intel C2D E8400, 8GB DDR3 / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/Q1x/2/3/4/5 = 6/2/0/0/0/0 (Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 0.5ms / Straight Contiguous / SFS/Max = 2.0/2.0 / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Real Time / Scheme = 2 / Minimize OS = On / 4x AP+PE / ** XTweaks (Standard Rez.) : Balanced Load = 54 / Nervous Rate = 3 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 0 / Time Performance Index : Optimal ** ==> AudioQuest Diamond USB ==> M2Tech Young DAC w/ linear power supply (32 bits / v7-1 W7 drivers)
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 09:06:32 am »

Hi,

I you sure you tested this in Minimized OS and after disabling WASAPI in XXHighEnd Settings while in Normal OS ?

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Peter
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2014, 12:25:09 am »

Good question.... I was running in Minimized OS with WASAPI disabled under z8e for the better part of a year, where the scripts worked. 

I just tried 1.186a this weekend, and ended up returning to Normal OS and then let 1.186a minimize the OS again.  The scripts did not work at this point, as the dependent services are now set to a startup type of "disabled" instead of "manual".  If I re-enable (i.e. set those services to "manual"), the script works again, but it would need to be tweaked to turn off the extra service that is started.

On my machine, setting the startup type for the following services to "manual" is required for the scripts to work: "Multimedia Class Scheduler", "Windows Audio", and "Windows Audio Endpoint Builder".

The start batch file does not require a change.
The stop batch file, however would now be:

2 - Stop Windows Audio.bat
@net stop "Windows Audio"
@net stop "Windows Audio Endpoint Builder"
@net stop "Multimedia Class Scheduler"
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2014-02-22 (1.186a) Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 [binaries on SSD, data on 7200RPM HD], Intel C2D E8400, 8GB DDR3 / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/Q1x/2/3/4/5 = 6/2/0/0/0/0 (Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 0.5ms / Straight Contiguous / SFS/Max = 2.0/2.0 / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Real Time / Scheme = 2 / Minimize OS = On / 4x AP+PE / ** XTweaks (Standard Rez.) : Balanced Load = 54 / Nervous Rate = 3 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 0 / Time Performance Index : Optimal ** ==> AudioQuest Diamond USB ==> M2Tech Young DAC w/ linear power supply (32 bits / v7-1 W7 drivers)
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2014, 07:18:06 am »

hehe But what you propose is the same as this :

Keep WASAPI services before booting into MinOS, and once in MinOS shut deactivate that button again (so, Not Keep WASAPI services then). Then play as usual (Unattended assumed).

Sorry ... Happy
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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