XXHE 9z-8a: Windows 8 pro x 64 Minimize OS problem

[AlainGr]

Well...

As of now, I have not found anything easy to allow Safe Mode in Windows 8.

This link could work but it is a little complicated:

http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-enable-windows-8-safe-mode/

Grrrrrrr

[PeterSt]

Create a new partition and dunk another OS in there. Could be your W7. But otherwise another dummy W8. That will give you the dual boot option automatically and that always carries an F8.

But when you're into adventures :
Look at the BCDEdit commands, and look for something like copy. You will be able to create that dummy boot menu, one of the options being empty. The sheer fact that the menu is there (you can choose something) will bring the F8. I *think* it is quite harmless when you create a dummy entry like that, but maybe it's a good idea to change the Guids of the (copied) dummy one (just change one character).

But you won't dare to do this ...
(but have Acronis)

Peter

[PeterSt]

Only a .net part has vanished, but I now recall that I tweaked something for that (and which should be part of the XXHighEnd procedure !! <- for offline PCs like this one here) but I forgot what.

Ah, I already described that here : Windows 8 Tutorials - Install .Net 3.5.

[AlainGr]

Create a new partition and dunk another OS in there. Could be your W7. But otherwise another dummy W8. That will give you the dual boot option automatically and that always carries an F8.

But when you're into adventures :
Look at the BCDEdit commands, and look for something like copy. You will be able to create that dummy boot menu, one of the options being empty. The sheer fact that the menu is there (you can choose something) will bring the F8. I *think* it is quite harmless when you create a dummy entry like that, but maybe it's a good idea to change the Guids of the (copied) dummy one (just change one character).

But you won't dare to do this ...
(but have Acronis)

Peter

Ha ha ! Thanks ! I will look into this

[PeterSt]

For those who want to have their Restore Points retained, look here :

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/127417-system-restore-points-stop-xp-dual-boot-delete.html

Notice that what's named XP in there is to be named W7 and what's Vista is to be W8 (or whatever two OS versions are in order). Thus, do NOT apply the import of the Registry part; instead apply the changes manually.

Important : When you do not see the drive of that other OS in your Explorer, it means that it got no drive letter assigned. Then do that first with the Virtual Disk Manager. Once that has been done, you can follow the tutorial in the given link.

After it has been applied, your other OS disk/partition will still show in Explorer, but when you click it it will say "Device not available" (or something like that). Of course it implies that you won't be able to access that other OS disk/partition from the one which is active - but that's the price to pay for your Restore Points not disappearing.

Additionally to what's told in the link, I applied the both vise versa. So, I also excluded the W7 partition in the W8 Registry. This activity will delete the Restore Points you had in W7 (which for me stayed all the time) for one time, but after all is set they will stay.
... As how it now looks ...

Hope this helps someone.

Peter

[AlainGr]

For those who want to have their Restore Points retained, look here :

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/127417-system-restore-points-stop-xp-dual-boot-delete.html

Notice that what's named XP in there is to be named W7 and what's Vista is to be W8 (or whatever two OS versions are in order). Thus, do NOT apply the import of the Registry part; instead apply the changes manually.

Important : When you do not see the drive of that other OS in your Explorer, it means that it got no drive letter assigned. Then do that first with the Virtual Disk Manager. Once that has been done, you can follow the tutorial in the given link.

After it has been applied, your other OS disk/partition will still show in Explorer, but when you click it it will say "Device not available" (or something like that). Of course it implies that you won't be able to access that other OS disk/partition from the one which is active - but that's the price to pay for your Restore Points not disappearing.

Additionally to what's told in the link, I applied the both vise versa. So, I also excluded the W7 partition in the W8 Registry. This activity will delete the Restore Points you had in W7 (which for me stayed all the time) for one time, but after all is set they will stay.
... As how it now looks ...

Hope this helps someone.

Peter

Hi Peter,

I am becoming too lazy (you are right about "dare") to have my music PC installed with 2 OS... I prefer to either restore one or the other if you ask me to test something

The other thing is that I actually have only a SSD for the OS (120GB), not much, so having a dual boot would eat too much space for the memory cell management...

OTOH I have another SSD that could do the job, being in a hard drive case. I could restore W7 on it to do some tests instead. Haven't tried yet, but I will if necessary.

For the moment I keep 9z-7-5 with W8, though I have not access to the many additions from 9z-8a, but even if I can't minimize the OS, the music is already so good, I can wait

So I can say that my Christmas gift was already unpacked many month ago

Thanks

Alain
P.S.: Don't hesitate to ask me if you want me to do other tests with either W8 or W7 ok ?