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« on: October 17, 2012, 08:08:46 pm »
I just want to make everybody aware that the playback directory can have a huge effect on SQ.. Peter mentions it in his release notes but further I see not many posts about it.
This afternoon I used it for the first time. As playback directory I use a directory on a new 16Gb USB stick (5 euro..) instead of running directly from my 2 RAID spinning disks.
The effect is stunning: in my system as big as PA... (as far as you can 'measure' that with your ears). More 'black'/quiteness, a very attractive sparkling high and a deeper/more full sound.
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 02:37:54 am »
Quote from: hf on October 17, 2012, 08:08:46 pm
Peter mentions it in his release notes but further I see not many posts about it.

Lots of discussion on this topic few months back.
Please check this for an example. http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=2184.0
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 10:39:04 am »
Thanks, Praphan,

Looked for it, but missed it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 10:35:05 am »
Quote from: hf on October 18, 2012, 10:39:04 am

Looked for it, but missed it.

No problem Hein,

If I remember correctly, you used Berkeley Alpha DAC before. Just notice from your sig that you switched to NOS1 USB already. Congratulation!

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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2012, 04:00:10 pm »
Hi All,

After reading this about a Playback drive I did some tests myself. And I also came to the conclusion that the sound is much better now.
The music files are on a external 2TB WD elements USB drive with its own power and as Playback drive a Maxell 32 Gb USB key. Also LAN is off now.
For my situation the USB key as Playback drive is much better then a external USB HHD.
One thing I notice, but not sure if it is related, is that I can use Straight continuous now. Before only Mixed was possible. I have one question: Should the Playback drive be larger? Or should I just make it empty sometimes?

kind regards, Arjan
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2012, 04:47:56 pm »
Quote from: akremer on October 28, 2012, 04:00:10 pm
Hi All,
I have one question: Should the Playback drive be larger? Or should I just make it empty sometimes?
kind regards, Arjan

Hi Arjan,

No, you don´t necessarily need more than those 32Gb, it depends on the size of your Playlist. The files in the Playback Drive are WAV files, that means that you could have a Playlist of around 20/50 albums in 32Gb, it depends on the albums size.

Each time you turn off XXHighEnd the Playlist is erased.

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Juan
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