Minimized Mode for 09-z7-3

[PeterSt]

Another next ! really ..

[ivo]

Hi Peter,

So, after successful activation yesterday, I also tried the MinOS mode and I was not able to go into that. I tried several times and no way it goes in there. Checked my services - all standard ones, no special non-Windows services are running. All my power management if OFF wherever that is possible. My laptop has only the minimum software and not all that cr*p that comes when you buy pre-installed one.
When I go into unattended I stop 0 services and it works, only 4 processes need to be left unstoppable for unattended to work.
I guess I will leave it for now and play in unattended as want to enjoy a bit of music....

Can you shortly (I know it ain't easy) describe what is so special going on when we choose to use MinOS? I know it grabs RAM in advance, but still....

Ivo (running know the very latest z7-4)

[PeterSt]

Hi Ivo,

Well, I am out of text ...

When I go into unattended I stop 0 services and it works

But what do you mean by this ? So, I don't understand

"I stop 0 services"

and

"and it works" (what works ? or what doesn't work otherwise and what will be this "otherwise" ?)

Also, when you use the MinOS button, does the reboot normally happen or do you receive a message ?

I could also ask : what actually tells you it does not work ?

And a strange one perhaps : can you show me a screenshot of your Taskbar ?

Sorry for all the questions, but I try to understand what could be going on ...
Peter

[ivo]

So,

Forget about those services I stop (just mentioned them as you said before it might relate to some problem in services). I meant that all services are able to stop, noone needs to be put in Keep services list.

Also, when you use the MinOS button, does the reboot normally happen or do you receive a message ?

Yes, I press and it says that now will reboot to MinOS. As usual.

I could also ask : what actually tells you it does not work ?

After reboot Theme service runs and windows theme stays the same. Also, process and service count running in RAM is the same and network is up however I said it to stop wifi services.

Will send you later a video how I do that

Ivo

[PeterSt]

Haha, no video needed.

Ok. You may send the XX log file which will be there as the latest one just after your MinOS-Reboot attempt. But switch on logging of course. Please send the file to sales at etc. and then we will proceed from there. Ok ?

Thanks,
Peter

[Eric]

Hello Ivo,
I have been there before myself more than once.
From your symptoms I bet you did not follow EXACTLY(step by step) the activation procedure. Just do it again.

Good luck and cheers,
Eric

[nik.d]

Peter
This looks like what Gerard & I described already: XXHE can minimize OS only once, at first attempt.
If by any reason/need you want to return to Normal OS, on second and further attempts XXHE is not able
to stop any services or make change from Aero to Windows 7 Basic Theme.

Ivo
For the moment best practice is to make System Restore Point after activating XXHE and installing any SW you
may need (like WinRar etc.). Then follow Peter's advise on System Restore Point, reserving more disk space for
System Restore. Now create Restore Point naming it whatever you like. This restore point will serve as start
point in case anything goes wrong, you will have activated XXHE allways.

For the moment think you will need to re-instal OS again, shut off UAC (w/ restart of course) and reqest new
activation code. Before clicking Minimize OS, try all modes & memory organisation, incl. unattended mode.

HTH

Brgds
 

[manisandher]

I must have switched between 'Minimize OS' and 'normal OS' over 100 times yesterday with none of the described issues whatsoever. But I have 'Windows 7 Ultimate' on both of my music PCs (both relatively new clean builds). Might it be a good idea to invest in a copy of Ultimate just to alleviate these kinds of issues (if indeed this fixes things)?

Mani.

EDIT: Ah Eric, I see you're already on W7Ult. OK, so that's not the soluton...

[PeterSt]

To me it looks like Ivo is Activated all right and otherwise I don't know myself what that is.

Also, I don't think Ivo got into Minimized even one time.

So it looks to be a different situation and maybe still the laptop is related. Somehow I have the hunch that the laptop is lean because Ivo made it that (threw out things). Well, that could be a nice reason. So Ivo, if you did ... Reinstall a normal W7 OS (not made for the laptop) and don't touch anything further. XXHighEnd will kill all there is to kill, except for what's in the "Startup". But never mind that for now.

Peter

[ivo]

Hi all,

Thanks for sharing minds.
The thing is that I did follow activation steps each and every. And it activated like it should. All works, except MinOS mode. As Peter mentioned there is no connection between activation and MinOS as such.
After I activated and played a little in attended mode, I did a restore point. Nothing has been installed since then.

I guess it is never said that before going into MinOS, one must play in all modes and in all mem organizations.

Of course I can try to wipe all off, make a clean install and re-activate, but then if I again change something later on - for instance do some tweaks to OS, where is guarantee that another re-install won't be needed?

Ivo

[ivo]

Well, that could be a nice reason. So Ivo, if you did ... Reinstall a normal W7 OS (not made for the laptop) and don't touch anything further. XXHighEnd will kill all there is to kill, except for what's in the "Startup".

1) I have Win 7 x64 Pro SP1 dvd, purchased separatly from laptop.
2) Usually after install I do:
-disable set of services I know can be disabled from experience
-turn off scheduled defrag
-turn off file indexing on hdd
-turn off swap
-turn off some windows features
-turn off all sounds
-turn off majority of visual effects
-disable some un-needed HW in device manager
-turn off power management where possible

I have done it previously on my tower PC and all was fine with XX going into MinOS. (Prior to version 7, though).

Really hate re-install all again, maybe I can try enabling back some of things I have stopped?

Ivo

[stefanobilliani]

Hi all ,

can't say this is interesting . But the last couple of versions or so ,I had the same problem ( big pc ) . I hink I know how to play with activations (!) but nevertheless cant go in minize anymore . 2 systems : one in MBR and the other in UEFI , both w7 ultimate .

I did try about everything ; restoring point let go the system in minimized one time and then nada .

Also did turn off all the timers/sleeping feautures .

The next OS in the new HD from WD , will maybe tell more .

Stefano

[PeterSt]

Ivo, no. Just send me that log file and I will try to see what is going on. I think you tried enough for now. Notice though that the way you "operate" is prone to have all stuck because it is encouraged that in between reboots you actually perform installs (merely uninstalls in your case) and it is known that this will confuse the process. So, one example (and in your head the real situation will be stored) :

When you uninstall some hardware, do not reboot (just because the OS doesn't ask you to) and next go into Minimized, you are in bad luck because the OS rules here and creates its own set of "reboot settings". These will conflict what XXHighEnd does (well, this is the idea behind the failed MinOS situations) and a normal human being has to reinstall the OS. As I told before, I had this a couple of times (maybe 4 or 5 all together) and only with MUCH effort I could get it back to normal, without me seeing any logic anywhere. But for me it is 100% : it is because a reboot "fixates" any new install situation and only upon that Minimized OS is to be applied.

But let's stop this for now. Just hand me that log file.
Stefano, you can do it too, although it seems a different situation. Send it to sales at etc.

Peter