Crack at Stop

[tillen]

Hello Peter
Thougt I had to dare using the PA now, with the version 3, but I get the same crack/beplop sound at end, and while stopping playback as the others did before. did I misunderstand anything? thought it was safe now. tried with the fade out step as well.

Regards Arnt

[CaOd]

For me everything is running smooth with 9z-7-3 now! No more crack at the end, one buffer repeat, thats it. Thanks Peter!

Just one question: Shall I keep all the changes in the settings? I.e. is it advisable to keep buffer length at 256 or shall I go back to 4096? Whats the advantage if both are running ok? Q1 and xQ1 (now at 30, 10) shall I go back to (14,1)?

Many thanks for the improvements,

Carsten

[PeterSt]

You can do what you want Carsten. Those settings were just mine, so it was to compare with settings which had to work by "guarantee". That's all.

Regards,
Peter

[SeVeReD]

Hello Peter
Thougt I had to dare using the PA now, with the version 3, but I get the same crack/beplop sound at end, and while stopping playback as the others did before. did I misunderstand anything? thought it was safe now. tried with the fade out step as well.

Regards Arnt

hmm 9z-7-3
Tried with my regular settings, but not minimized and not unattended.  Set fade out to 0.  Very low volume for me @-36
didn't hear the crack when pushed stop.  Turned up the volume to close to listening levels... pushed stop and heard the crack :/  It wasn't too loud compared to what I heard with 9z-7-2... but the volume was a little lower.  Tried with Fade Out set to default 3 and that seems to work at not hearing the crack... but does that mean PA is still not working properly?  Very late here... need sleepy time.  Will try more tomorrow.

[PeterSt]

Okay ...
What people (Arnt too) now must know is that now all applies what applied before this topic emerged. So, buffer settings stuff etc. For example, when I set my Q1 and Q1F to 1 (DevBuffer at 4096) I sure have that louder tick at the end too. This is just the basics of all. Too bad of course that before 0.9z-7-3 things didn't work out for other reasons. But I think it is a good idea to now think *this* part just works, so now it's back to those basics again.

Note :
What I said before is that I now would be able to check whether it all didn't work out in reversed mode. But I can't. That is, looking at the code-changes I "forgot" why it worked with 8x or 16x upsampling only - such a reason can not be checked for (sadly !).
But when everything is followed in normal fashion (hence the protections are normally obayed), all should be working. For example, for Engine#3 it is not allowed and this is obvious when you try it. However, I think that me myself and I would be able to activate it for Engine#3 anyway, but it is obvious that should not be attempted (because it really doesn't work).

Peter

[stefanobilliani]

Last night I had the pleasure to finally 'listen' to PA . IF you did note , I didn't tell about anything for the 0.9z7 sound in general .
That was because I think , PA wasn't working or engaging correctly at the famous 88200Hz , which is the only upsample frequency I can afford now ( but soon will be more than that ) .

It worked all for me at : Q1 from 14 to 30 , XQ1=1 Dev Buff size at 4096 and its value on the DAC the same .

It did set perfectly to fade out at a Step of 4 .

Changing the DAC buffer size in front of a fixed XXHE buffer size ( 4096) didn't change anything for the fade out Step .

So from what I hear , I say : IT IS WORKING !!!!   


For the sound ... congratulations . It seems to me a wonderful feature . I can hear basycally a very RIAA like dynamic sound , much more musical all over , with a good notice for the bass zone which is delicate , round , and .... dynamic .

Also all the cymbals and drums details are better ;
It is another sound , it is audible pretty soon turning on and off PA , but of course the enjoyment comes listening to all the album . More there is tons of stereo information of the rooms , keyboards and fingers to the bassguitars . Mmmmm . Sweet .


Stefano

[SeVeReD]

CaOd & Stefano I'm assuming you both are using the Fade Out feature to avoid the crack?  If the crack is still there but being hidden by the Fade Out, does that mean that PA is not engaging or not engaging properly?  The player sure sounded wonderful for the small amount of time I got to listen to it last night.  I had it running in Minimized/unattended mode and my "good" settings and it has been almost 3 weeks since I've gotten to listen, so it could be I was just starved for good 'ol XXHE, but it sure sounded good with PA knowing I could relax with Fade Out engaged.

[stefanobilliani]

CaOd & Stefano I'm assuming you both are using the Fade Out feature to avoid the crack?  If the crack is still there but being hidden by the Fade Out, does that mean that PA is not engaging or not engaging properly?  The player sure sounded wonderful for the small amount of time I got to listen to it last night.  I had it running in Minimized/unattended mode and my "good" settings and it has been almost 3 weeks since I've gotten to listen, so it could be I was just starved for good 'ol XXHE, but it sure sounded good with PA knowing I could relax with Fade Out engaged.

I do not have severe cracks at stop , only that plop thing . But to me is clear that now PA engages , and I maybe know why .

Engaging properly ? How could I know , since the feature is considered a secret? 


stefano

[stefanobilliani]

From the beginning this has been Peter's player he is developing for himself, he's just using us for further development and confirmation (the more ears the better to help him make a the best for himself).  We are lucky he decided to let us in on this sometimes risky game.

I hope you are just kidding with this .