"Stop Remaining Services" Doesn't Seem to Work

[PeterSt]

I never use AV programs. They ALWAYS slow down. Ha three times in my life a virus two times  because of others using my PC and one time because of hotel wifi in the US. Always blame someone else of course.

[Jud]

So it looks as though our lesson for today (and every day  ) is that Peter knows what he is talking about.

There could be an entry in the XX log, but I wasn't able to identify anything that called out what was happening when XXHE wasn't able to shut down the remaining services.

Somehow Win Defender and Firewall had managed to get themselves turned on again, so I turned them off, but that wasn't the problem.

No, of course it was the AV.  Though it complained that I was "unprotected," only one of about seven running AV processes was actually turned off at the time.  And they make it a PITA to turn everything off, since 6 of the 7 are only off until the next reboot, while the 7th *requires* a reboot to shut it down.

So I set the one process to stop as of the next reboot, rebooted with OS minimized, then turned off the other 6 processes at a sub-level of the AV UI.  Whereupon XXHE was able to stop all the remaining services within a couple of seconds and begin play.  And yes, Peter, it sounded even that much better - I was glad I persevered.   

So it may require some fiddling each time with the AV UI (and more to turn it back on again for when my wife and stepson use the desktop), but sonically it is worthwhile.

Now for some work in the yard, and later the multimeter to see whether hooking up a more powerful amp might allow use of PA.

[PeterSt]

Jud, always nice to hear when things work out as I intend.
And your feedback is super. So yes, it will turn off one process at the time (now I think of it) because it just hangs on the first. But :
I think it doesn't need a reboot for each process ? Just another attempt of Unattended playback ? Not sure.

It may also be that if you look at those processes (and/or services) top-down in the sequence you shut them off, that starting with the last one may not ever start the others. Not sure that is helpful though in your situation.

Peter

[Jud]

Jud, always nice to hear when things work out as I intend.
And your feedback is super. So yes, it will turn off one process at the time (now I think of it) because it just hangs on the first. But :
I think it doesn't need a reboot for each process ? Just another attempt of Unattended playback ? Not sure.

Peter

The reboot is required by the AV program itself to shut off one of its processes.  This process then remains shut off until the user turns it on again (which again requires a reboot).

The AV treats its other half dozen or so processes differently: one can choose to turn them off effective immediately for various lengths of time, the maximum of which is "Until next restart."

I haven't yet tried just turning off the process that requires a reboot and seeing if XXHE will take care of the others by itself.  Will let you know if that works.

BTW, you have permission to quote that bit about "Peter knows what he is talking about" in discussions with family members, except I think I know what the reaction would be.   

[Jud]

The reboot is required by the AV program itself to shut off one of its processes.  This process then remains shut off until the user turns it on again (which again requires a reboot).

The AV treats its other half dozen or so processes differently: one can choose to turn them off effective immediately for various lengths of time, the maximum of which is "Until next restart."

I haven't yet tried just turning off the process that requires a reboot and seeing if XXHE will take care of the others by itself.  Will let you know if that works.

Yes, stopping the one process that the AV requires a reboot to turn off allows XXHE to shut down the remaining processes on its own.

For future reference by anyone running the ESET AV software, the particular process that requires a reboot to stop is called "HIPS" (Host-based Intrusion Prevention System).  The ESET manual page about it is currently here: http://download.eset.com/manuals/eset_ess_5_userguide_enu.pdf#page=41

Stopping it requires you to open the AV's full UI; go into Setup; under Computer/HIPS click on Enabled, choose to disable, click OK in the AV's UI window, and reboot.

[PeterSt]

Thank you Jud ...