Which Tablet

[PeterSt]

Which tablet would you prefer? And what about a tablet with W8 on it.

I now can think of one pro for a Win tablet, and that is the more direct communication with the Audio PC. So, the iPad needs a trick - Android based the same.
I am not sure what this is worth because I never tried a Win tablet ...

Peter

[juanpmar]

The other device I always had in mind is the Asus EE Pad Trasformer. It has several advantages like the possibility to use it as a tablet or as a notebook with a detachable keyboard that also add extra battery time. It also has an USB 2.0 port.

Peter, wouldn´t you mind to take a look and give me your opinion in terms of functionality as remote?: http://eee.asus.com/en/eeepad/transformer-prime/specification/

Best regards,
Juan

[PeterSt]

Hi Juan. Ok, FWIW :

I just read a test from lat February (in Dutch) and it says that it's the first tablet which can meet the iPad2 response and smoothness (only with Android 4.0 that is). BUT :
This is about the latest version, the Prime. So not your Eee and not the TF300 (I think this Prime is also called the TF700T).

These thingies cost 600 euros (incl. our 19% VAT) including the dock and 400 without dock. The dock (+ keyboard) may not be all that convenient as promised, because of incompatility issues. What I read is that earlier it was sort of unusable in the first place, while improvements till today only show a few issues left, but people say that because of these issues it may be more convenient to just use the touch screen.

What I read I recognize from my 1Kg UMPC Asus (Vista) "tablet". Things are half baked, stop working, needs reboots or doesn't start without being plugged into the mains. Physical mouse often doesn't work, physical keyboard (wired) almost never works. So, I don't read the very same things, but what I read feels "Asus".

So, can match up with iPad2's response, but is more expensive already without dock. Without dock no USB, but there's an SD card entry so still usable on that matter.

Lastly, don't think you can use such a small device (screen) for "laptop usage". Do NOT think that the higher resolution compensates for anything, because that works the other way around (start XXHighEnd on a 1920x1080 screen and you will understand).

Best regards,
Peter

[PeterSt]

Another thing :

It only last week occurred to me that you people are going to obtain tablets because I say they will be feasable as a remote from off 0.9z-7. So, many seemed to ask for it, and now it occurs that only few own one at this moment. This was not my idea about it all. Hence, now I sort of feel responsible for your 400+ spendings on a remote which obviously must be the most slick of all. Well, maybe it is, but trust me for now it won't. Or maybe it will. It is actually up to you.

On to the title of this post ...
Most probably you all have laptops. What's in my mind : djeezz, use that !
You must also remember what this actually is all about : using a form of remote which is convenient (and which is not commands only) without the LAN being active and merely : no WiFi. With that, you can already do it, but it has never been advised (explicitly rejected by me actually), so by now it may not be in your mind anymore that a laptop will do fine and possibly even better. But the whole thing -for the solution- is based upon laptop use (don't forget this sentence) and it is only that I extended this to iPads/Androids because you asked for it. Either way though, 0.9z-7 will provide those non-WiFi and non-LAN means, so ...

Stick to that laptop. Or at least at first. Wait until you have that tablet for other reasons anyway.

Lastly, I bought that Android so I can test/develop for you. Probably I won't even use it in the end, at this moment a bit depending on how "convenient" I can get it, related to eyes with glasses which makes me to put off my glasses and have my nose 10cm from the screen to ever read what I need to read for general control/settings. And yes, I increased the font size already. For example, browse this forum and type a post ? NO-WAY. Oh, my glasses are -5 for your reference.
The only reason I might stick to the tablet is because it's easy to lay in a convenient corner in the kitchen while "working" there. And yes, nice that the coverart mirror back (Unattended) shows me the tracks. But I really first need to increase the font size of that before I can ever read it from a normal distance, and *that* will cause much not to fit (read : no solution).

Again about the iPad. Yes, my wife uses it. But half of the time she's behind the laptop or another PC to do the things we are used to do. Just because the iPad doesn't allow a few things (start with torrent stuff).

Lastly and to be clear : I won't shed one tear when you won't be using XXHighEnd on a tablet while I spent some bloody hours on it. What I (all) created for it is a general thing and it was needed anyway (and that maybe took 400-500 hours). Maybe right now I need to make one tiny thing taking me 1 or 2 hours, needed explicitly for a tablet. That really is all. So don't let yourself be bothered by that.

[Gerard]

hmmmmm so does that mean a second pc in the same room can work?? W7

So buy something bluetooth stick it in a usb port and that will work one way or another?

 

[manisandher]

Hey Peter, if we use a laptop, does this have to remain switched 'on' as we play music? I mean, if the laptop goes into sleep mode, would the remote connection automatically resume on bringing the laptop back to life? Even it this works OK, I assume keeping the laptop on is useful for hot keys, etc.

The issue I have is that I hate the fan noise from laptops (and desktops). Yes, you could say that you won't hear it when music is playing, which may well be true, but it still bothers me all the same. No, a tablet that works well for XX remote duties is what I want - totally quiet, easy to operate (just for remote duties) and a long battery life. Perfect!

I'm happy to be a guinea pig to test how well the iPad3 solution works. Those who are not sure how to proceed might want to just hold off ordering an iPad2/3 until those of us with one have a chance to test it out. Meanwhile, as Peter says just use a laptop or something.

Mani.

[BertD]

hmmmmm so does that mean a second pc in the same room can work?? W7

So buy something bluetooth stick it in a usb port and that will work one way or another?

 

If this would become true...

The PC is always running anyhow because I am not "allowed" to work on the Music PC and then having a Window on my main PC to play music through the NOS1 would be very much welcome!

Bert

[PeterSt]

hmmmmm so does that mean a second pc in the same room can work?? W7

So buy something bluetooth stick it in a usb port and that will work one way or another?

 

Yes ... That is, with the dongles you will be receiving next week or so.

[Gerard]

Well that will be great for now. First see how things will work out.

 

[BertD]

Yes ... That is, with the dongles you will be receiving next week or so.

Hi Peter,

I just returned from Holidays and did not read back too far (not sure if I will be capable either...) but I did pass something about bluetooth dongles.

Am I too late for having a pair of those for my system?

Bert

[JohanZ]

hmmmmm so does that mean a second pc in the same room can work?? W7

So buy something bluetooth stick it in a usb port and that will work one way or another?

So one dongle in the audiopc and the other one in the ipad.......or
???? I had the impression that the set of dongles are also usable for the ipad. Or do we need an adapter for the ipad?
Johan

[juanpmar]

...using a form of remote which is convenient (and which is not commands only) without the LAN being active and merely : no WiFi. With that, you can already do it, but it has never been advised (explicitly rejected by me actually), so by now it may not be in your mind anymore that a laptop will do fine and possibly even better.

Stick to that laptop. Or at least at first. Wait until you have that tablet for other reasons anyway.

I think you are right Peter, I´m going to use a computer as remote and see how it works. I have two possibilities:

- As I work with a computer in the same room where I have the music system I can use this pc as a remote. I don´t use it with wi-fi or lan. This computer is absolutely silent.

- I could use also a HP netbook mini 110 that I also have although its battery doesn´t work and it has to be connected to the wall, this model doesn´t have bluetooth either, so I must buy an adapter if I want to use it.

Meanwhile let´s wait to see what others with tablets can say about their experience (thanks Mani).

Best regards,
Juan

[PeterSt]

this model doesn´t have bluetooth either, so I must buy an adapter if I want to use it

I know I am talking in secrets all the time. But didn't you order a few of those already ?

[PeterSt]

Am I too late for having a pair of those for my system?

You ?

[juanpmar]

this model doesn´t have bluetooth either, so I must buy an adapter if I want to use it

I know I am talking in secrets all the time. But didn't you order a few of those already ?

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