The W7 black hole

[boleary]

Thanks Peter. When I uninstalled SP1 all the updates contained within SP1 automatically installed, 85 of them! That's my best guess cause my system is set not to receive updates nor was I connected to the internet when I uninstalled SP1. I then had to manually uninstall those updates, which did not take as long as reinstalling the OS. Anyway the improvement in SQ is substantial. Very much more analogue sounding. To see if I could hear the difference I first tried "I Got Rythm"  from the Bassface Trio Plays Gershwin CD. This is probably my most well recorded 16/44 file. I was shocked. The piano had the true accoustic sound of a wooden instrument. I listen to that disc a lot and I'd never heard the piano sound like that before, analogue overtones like it's is in the room.

Also, Itook your advise and have been listening with a new amp for several months now. Solid state 150 watts per channel (Odyssee Stratos Plus) using anticable wire to connect the speakers. Geeze the mids and the base have been in my room in a new way; however this latest "remove SP1 discovery" has made my volkswagan system totally unrecognizable.

Talk about service, Peter and his family came to my house during their travels in the US last spring. Had a great time and, whether he knows it or not, a great, though brief, education in audio. The sound level meter  he gifted me has been used often to "prove" to my dear wife that the music is not too loud!

Again, Thanks.

[PeterSt]

LOL

Well, did we have a great time or didn't we !
I can only hope that you did not convert to Rick's jazz. Haha
(just kidding, what a great guy he is anyway, hey, all of you !)

Ok. I don't understand what happened with your uninstall - and next 85 individual KB's installed automatically ? how ? Did you have Auto-updates on perhaps ?
Anyway that did not happen to me.

Well, we now have Volkswagons, Volkswagans, and I guess we also could try Volkswogans. They are strong.
Overhere we stick to Volkswagens, although I have seen those in the US too.

Best regards,
Peter

[juanpmar]

Does anyone know how to uninstall SP1 when it came originally with the system?. I mean without having to uninstall and reinstall the whole system. It looks that´s impossible...

Non of this works: http://www.ghacks.net/2011/02/23/how-to-uninstall-windows-7-service-pack-1/

Juan

[Gerard]

Djeeez what a sound!! Extra layer all over! Unbelievable that it was under our hands all the time. 

Small remark:

System is more sensitive for small ticks so now and than. (Mixed mode) Or maybe now we can hear them and they were there all the time.

 

[GerardA]

I agree with Gerard!

[manisandher]

Just uninstalled SP1 and most updates - three 'KBs' remain which I can't uninstall.

Ummmmmm...

There seems to be a marked increase in upper bass which makes the overall sound much smoother. I mean, totally, totally analogue-sounding. Rich and full harmonics. Utterly listenable. Nothing disturbing.

BUT... I'm not hearing the extra detail that some of you seem to be reporting.

Mani.

[Calibrator]

System is more sensitive for small ticks so now and than. (Mixed mode) Or maybe now we can hear them and they were there all the time.

I have noticed that also. I raised the Q1 a few levels to compensate. I've noticed it more with hi-res content (176.4 & 196). Anyone else experience this and does raising Q1 help? I have my new rebuild pretty much tweaked to how it was with SP1 RC installed, but I may have missed a couple of items that still need turning off/disabling.

Cheers,

Russ

[Calibrator]

Does anyone know how to uninstall SP1 when it came originally with the system?. I mean without having to uninstall and reinstall the whole system. It looks that´s impossible...

Non of this works: http://www.ghacks.net/2011/02/23/how-to-uninstall-windows-7-service-pack-1/

Juan

I was in the same situation. When I initially built the Win7 environment I had slipstreamed SP1 RC into the install disc, and when I attempted to uninstall it a few days back was unable to find a way.

It's only a few hours rebuilt time, and you could waste almost that much time searching the net for a possible solution, so just accept that a rebuild is needed and just jump in. It's worth the effort

Cheers,

Russ

[juanpmar]

I was in the same situation. When I initially built the Win7 environment I had slipstreamed SP1 RC into the install disc, and when I attempted to uninstall it a few days back was unable to find a way.

It's only a few hours rebuilt time, and you could waste almost that much time searching the net for a possible solution, so just accept that a rebuild is needed and just jump in. It's worth the effort

Cheers,

Russ

That´s ok Russ, I will...Thanks!

Juan

[PeterSt]

BUT... I'm not hearing the extra detail that some of you seem to be reporting.

Did someone ? maybe. But at least this is not what I notice.
But freshness and freshness are two things. That which jumps out (before, and possibly implying mote detail -> logic) and that which is natural (now). It has fundament. This may (or will) mask the detail.
But much more is "playable" now, and not only that. Way more interesting in my humble opinion.

Peter

[SeVeReD]

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I hate you guys .....


haha I just installed win 7 64 and shoulda known not to update, but somehow I thought I read that latest xxhe is/was moving toward win not having an influence.

I'm not even going to listen I'm just going to start uninstallin.
but what about all those "security updates"  I generally am not connected to the internet and shut off network/malwarebytes when not connected, but there are times I hook up to the internet.  Should Malwarebytes be sufficient to save me from malware/viruses? or no se?

[Calibrator]

Go on Dave .. you know you can't resist having a sneak listen while you have the service pack installed

Cheers,

Russ

[PeterSt]

Dave, FYI :

Any anti virus/malware is "devistating" to sonic performance. In the end it will be removed by XX from memory (when you ask to shut down all the services), or you have to do it because the services removal won't go otherwise.

In the due 0.9z-6 those ever slowing down antivirus etc. stuff won't even get a chance, so you better prepare for living without.
And well, I never used any antivirus software on any of my PC's. But you got to learn to smell them coming ...
Don't ask for the programs/sites with Z in them, for example.

but

It is always a good thing to have antivirus software around (registered and all), because when you *have* a virus, the first thing which is tough is getting on the internet to obtain that software.

Peter

[SeVeReD]

Malwarebytes is great when I'm on the internet but I have a whole routine of shutting lots of stuff down, including malwarebytes, when listening to music...I start with the bios shutting down network/usb (i even remove cables not being used in case there's some passive electrical influence) ... and then move to shutting down software and rebooting half a dozen times. geez don't you know me by now?

[Scroobius]

Hi Peter - Arrrgghh    but I thought that NOS1 Async USB was not going to be affected by the o/s or any settings. So why is it affected? I thought XX was being loaded onto and then run actually on NOS USB or have I misunderstood?

Wouldn't it be easier to make the PC dual boot with W7 pre SP1 on one partition (with no virus/malware s/w) and the full latest updated version of W7 on the other partition (with virus & malware s/w etc). So then it is easy to boot to the pre W7 SP1 partition for XX listening sessions and boot to the other partition to do any *work* or housekeeping and virus checks etc.

Anyway I will load a completely stripped (what you could call a tiny pre SP1 W7 version) on a separate partition. I used to do this on my laptop and it was the only way I could get XX to work with limited resources and it worked very well.

Hey Mani if you read this I think you suggested doing this when I saw you last - so now I will do it and report back for our edification 

P