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« on: February 01, 2011, 10:39:07 pm »
Hello Peter. This is my first post here.  I find XX the best "CD"-player around.  It makes very open focused dynamic sound coming out of my QUAD 989's very happy
I recently upgraded to 09-Z4-0 and can not get it to play.  Z2 and Z3 works still fine.  Z4 will not start engine3  unhappy
Could it be my PC specs that are too low ( only 2GB Ram )?
I tried nearly all settings possible and reinstalled several times...

Likes Z2 very much but curious to hear if z4 has improved. smile

I have tried both activated and unactivated...no luck yet
It will play with KS engine 4 but only to Juli@ wave out...not SPDIF  scratching
do you have any ideas to try?
Thanks and All the Best
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 02:37:54 am »
Well, a first post sometimes incurs for a Welcome !

But what can you do with that ?
Ok, at this moment I can tell you that I have exactly one user telling (offline) a sort of the same. Of course I told him "user error", but only because it seemed a single occasion, and without a year of experience nothing may work with 0.9z-4-0.

But when long time hidden users start to complain, I must put my attention to the other user and offer some apologies I guess.

More importantly, maybe I can make up something out of the two of you (similarities).

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Z4 will not start engine3

What do you mean by this exactly ? Error messages ?
Obviously you tried "Mixed" for memory. But to be sure, did you ?

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It will play with KS engine 4 but only to Juli@ wave out...not SPDIF

Meaning ? ... different compared to earlier versions ?

Let me know.
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 09:51:42 am »
Quote from: HAL9000 on February 01, 2011, 10:39:07 pm
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It will play with KS engine 4 but only to Juli@ wave out...not SPDIF  scratching



Hi Hal9000,

Just a week ago i helped a friend with his new Juli@ soundcard. The problem looks a bit a like and if you read these topics maybe that wil help.

http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=1332.msg12140#msg12140

http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=1063.0

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16GB, *Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0* *from RAM*, music on music server / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *0.10*  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core *3-5* / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive *none* (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Not the best (OS from RAM issue) / Time Stability = Off (OS from RAM issue) / Custom Filter Mid 705600 / -> USB3 (Silverstone both sides isolated = Sw#3 of NOS1a = Up) -> *Clairixa USB 15cm* -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 0.70m -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink ->> Metrum Amps ->> Metrum Acoustics ESL Open Baffle.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 09:04:21 pm »
Hi Again Peter.
thanks for taking time to respond.

I installed the older 0.978 Juli@ driver which gave me channel 3-4 for KS so now I have sound.  Thx Gerard for advise on that. very happy

Still with engine 3 it will not work. It shows an error message that engine 3 did not start.  Here the text from that window (sorry for the Danish Happy  and yes I have tried Mixed and Mixed Contig no difference...But at least I now have sound to play with.
Note though that Engine3 works fine with versions 09-z2 and 09-z3 ...

Problemsignatur:
  Navn på problemhændelse:   APPCRASH
  Programnavn:   XXEngine3.exe
  Programversion:   0.0.0.0
  Tidsstempel for program:   4d35c88f
  Fejlmodulnavn:   StackHash_0a9e
 
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 04:48:42 pm »
Ok, thank you for the help. It was an error - actually because I never tested Engine#3 for 0.9z-4-0 (well, as it appeared). Everybody will have had it, but not many people use Engine#3 anymore.

It will be solved for 0.9z-4-1.
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).
For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.
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