glitch at end of track

[samda04]

Only difference is that the storage is connected via usb 2 in stead of e-sata (no e-sata on my laptop!). So may be have to use usb-3? (usb 2 would be quick enough?) OS is same (W7 Ultimate etc) and I used my laptop-code you gave me in the past (may be not correct activated? )

[PeterSt]

If you see the "undemo" it won't be activated.

USB3 ? well, that should help theoretically (if you have the connection on that laptop to begin with).

I merely think you will be having a problem with using an USB connected DAC and the USB connected source (disc).
You may try this :

Denote "Copy to XX Drive" in Settings. Now you MUST use Unattended, or otherwise this won't help a thing.
And, XXHighEnd must be on the internal hdd ...

Let me know,
Peter

[samda04]

Hi Peter,

Unfortunately nothing helped against glitches...tried everything you suggest. Installation (this was all right) on C, (also the XX-Data folder). For testing, I copied one music file direct to the ssd, but the same problem. So usb-speed seems no issue. After activating (yes, it wasn't yet, sorry!) I could change Appointment settings, but there is no difference, with unattended playing also not. Changed splitfile to lower settings, no result (mem. organisation both trying to mixed or mixed contiguous). And of course the Q1-setting (from 6 tot 14), no result. It's strange, is'nt it. Just can't get it why the glitches appears (also during playback but most on the end).

[PeterSt]

What about Minimze OS ?
Of course this can only go when Activated.

[samda04]

Unfortunately nothing worked , minimized os wont't even restart automatically (hangs with XX) en manually restart after that result in incorrect min. os (not looks like, although XX says it IS min. os, in the past this function worked twice or somewhat).

But playing glitchfree, cant't see the reason what's the matter now, I tried so far as I know everything. Also spdif isn't glitchfree, although a little les. Also, very often tracks will not continue (says: "end of track")

I hope anybody can give me a hint to solve these things.

[PeterSt]

What about fireing up Recource Monitor (from within Taskmanager is the easiest -> button).

I can't tell you what to look for, although you could look for something which translates as "postponed interrupts" (it's named differently for sure).

But otherwise you may be able to see what's busy, unexpectedly, on disc or cpu.

[samda04]

It seems, so far I noticed right now, that the monitor Aida64 one of the cause of the problem was, so speaking in terms of resources, it influences the sound apparently (was not on my old laptop).

Nevertheless, it gives still glitches, only just before the end of the track (the moment loading the next track in the background, isn’t it?) with flac and wave, and ONLY with high def. sound (24/96 in my situation). So what’s up that makes it, it wouldn’t be the specs of the machine…only 3-4% processor usage during playback. Any idea?

[PeterSt]

Unattended solves it (100% sure). That is, when it is really so that it is near the end of a track only.
Minimized OS is not needed in this case (as of how things are now).

What the real problem is ? ...
Ehm, dig further ?

At this stage of the problem, take care that your discs stay awake long enough (set it to 10 minutes or so). Just to try it.

Peter

[samda04]

Unattended playing solves the glitch-issue, indeed. Plus a better sound quality (minimize OS won't work since XX hangs while trying to restart). First I heard one or more glitches (better: GAP's!) on the end of any track, even in the very beginning of next track. In any situation I closed Aida64 (monitoringprogram on background), or I have constantly small glitches (actually strange, this wasn't on my previous laptop). But if I'm doing as describe, iIt's now free of glitches. Seems that XX had to be familiar with my new laptop??! It IS really an (error) sensitive program...sorry to say that....but sensitive is what you need in music, isn't it  And that's worth it!

Thanks for your support.

[PeterSt]

Error sensitive ? mwah, maybe. But maybe not.
Difficult to explain of course, but some (players) let you prepare the tracks off line to next do similar (for good SQ). That is another way. The XXHighEnd way is to make it convenient for you at the same time. BUT, this expects an on-par machine throughout, and I don't think I ever said that laptops are that ...

That is sad by itself of course, and we could say that I am to blame for it (try to squeeze out too much of things undoable), but indeed ... it *is* about SQ.
And that conveniency factor (ok, for what's *that*'s worth of course ! )

Regards,
Peter

PS: There should be "something" in that laptop that prevents Minimized OS Mode. Again sad, because that Mode just makes a laptop quite "on-par !".
But then there's also my anouncement (from quite a while back by now) that Minimized OS was not optimized for laptops yet. Why ? because there's so much sh*t in them !

[samda04]

On-par machine? What's that? And what kind of "sh*t" do you mean?  For me a laptop is a full Personal Computer with (almost) identical specs these days, any program must run on it, I think so. Also XXHighend and all his possibilities and tweaks. What makes a laptop different? Mobo, processor, memory, harddisk,....

[PeterSt]

Differences (in brief ) :

Processor (energy saving stuff);
Slow disc subsystem;
All you can think of that saves energy (which thus has been applied)

but mainly :

The piles of sh*t indeed that gets loaded onto such a thing, most often beyond your knowledge. So, install the most normal OS on this (thus, not from the manufacturer) and that's all gone. Then it is only the OS itself, and "we" can tweak that sufficiently. But, hope you get that normal OS running, which normally is far from the case; No problem for anyone with good experience, but otherwise ...
And the least you will be doing is looking for drivers this, drivers that - it's really a pain. But, of course doable when you are that experienced Win guy.

Small example of my own Toshiba I have here (not the worst brand for laptops) :
Boot time is ages, after that disc light stays on for 3-4 minutes at catching up, and all is as sluggish as hell. It will play XXHighEnd though, but that's about it.
Then I spend 4 hours or so at removing all what was not necessary, with the main problem of "does it keep on running for the normal job ?" (what about 100 reboots for that), but when it was done it was almost as fast as a desktop. So, you *can* be right.
Note though that this job is far from finished, because laptops tend to "need" WiFI and we don't like WiFi. But at least the grayed out button for that is in XX Settings already ...

Regards,
Peter

[samda04]

My laptop (Acer 5750G/Core i7 2670QM) isn't running anything more then my own W7 (not the factory-Premium), lightweight antivirus and up-to-date drivers and so on. Energy-savings are off, ssd inside (boot les than 15 sec), wifi standard off (use of LAN-cable). Playing often without supply connected. So mine is really "designed" to run XX...

[PeterSt]

Ehm, too bad it isn't playing well ?

Could you, please, dig up some posts about similar but from a desktop ? But count out the early W7 days, okay ?

But I said it, XXHighEnd is to blame. And it won't go otherwise either ...

Peter

[samda04]

Ehm....no, it actually isn't playing well, as simple that, still GLITCHES (better: GAPS) at the end of tracks, especially with high-res recordings. A mystery to me, why on this machine and not to my others.

As said, only unattended solves this.