jarek
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« on: June 24, 2010, 07:53:50 pm » |
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Hi Peter,
I would like to report small issue with false HDCD decoding. This is not new issue, was also in previous Z-1 version.
So, there are some CDs that are identified as being HDCD whilst they are not necessarily HDCD (in fact I am really not sure about it).
An example might be Alan Parson Project "Eye in the sky" remastered CD. When trying to play on XXHighEnd it is identified as being HDCD and sometimes I receive an error "Error during HDCD decoding" or something like that.
What I did, is I ripped it using dbPoweramp and added DSP effect called HDCD. What is does, is:
- if HDCD is found, it is decoded to 24bit
- if HDCD is not found, it is not decoded - left as 16 bit music
Now, when XXHighEnd upconverts also 24bit/44.1kHz flac files, I can use this DSP feature for every CD. And you know what is an additional advantage ? This software always clears HDCD flags whateved disk I rip - also seems to clear those false HDCD issues. For example, the Alan Parsons Project "Eye in the sky" is still 16bit FLAC, but HDCD is not reported as existing in XXHighEnd, and I can see no errors. Just positive side effect of dpPoweramp HDCD DSP effect on normal CD being identified as HDCD by XXHighEnd ?
True HDCD are converted to 24bit flac files by this DSP module.
Thank you !
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 08:16:46 pm » |
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 Ok, I have a Remaster 2007 (playing it now), but no spur of HDCD on there. You may send me a track via FileMail and I will look. Your other remarks ? ... hahaha,  too much to understand right now. Maybe tomorrow. First some football here.   |
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AUDIODIDAKT
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 09:10:47 pm » |
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Jarek, That DSP module you are talking about in dbpoweramp is using the same HDCD.exe program as xx does. Why would you destroy a album by pre-converting it, if xx does the same hdcd encoding on-the-fly. (There is no difference) True HDCD are converted to 24bit flac files by this DSP module.
Yes, xx does this on the fly, thats even better So disable the DSP (HDCD) future in dbpoweramp because you dont need it. Also check out Cuetoolsit has a function to scan your whole hdd and search for hdcd's, so you dont have to convert your albums to find them. cuetools puts a log in every album folder. [Verification date: 1/04/2010 20:24:06]
[Disc ID: 0010b302-00932b73-8b0b220b]
HDCD: peak extend: none, transient filter: none, gain: none
Track [ CRC ] Status
01 [18b377c5] (32/32) Accurately ripped
02 [887af8c1] (32/32) Accurately ripped
03 [bc07b0fd] (32/32) Accurately ripped
04 [c61e1123] (32/32) Accurately ripped
05 [bf8d0c3f] (32/32) Accurately ripped
06 [9fd4b435] (32/32) Accurately ripped
07 [7602dcb6] (32/32) Accurately ripped
08 [a9484c10] (32/32) Accurately ripped
09 [7aa19656] (32/32) Accurately ripped
10 [cda0b98d] (30/30) Accurately ripped
11 [ee2aa8c8] (29/29) Accurately ripped And this is the log i get when i scan my whole disc for e.g. G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Baptiste Trotignon - 2003 - Solo (HDCD)\Baptiste Trotignon - Solo.cue: HDCD detected, AR: rip accurate (4/4), CTDB: disk not present in database.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Barb Jungr - 2000 - Chanson, The Space In Between (HDCD)\Barb Jungr - Chanson_ The Space In Between.cue: HDCD detected, AR: rip accurate (14/14), CTDB: disk not present in database.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Barb Jungr - 2002 - Every Grain Of Sand (HDCD)\01 - I'll Be Your Baby Tonight.flac: HDCD detected, AR: rip accurate (22/22), CTDB: disk not present in database.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Barb Jungr - 2003 - Waterloo Sunset (HDCD)\Barb Jungr - Waterloo Sunset.cue: HDCD detected, AR: rip not accurate (0/23), CTDB: disk not present in database.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Barb Jungr - 2008 - Just Like a Woman (HDCD)\Barb Jungr - Just Like a Woman.cue: HDCD detected, AR: rip accurate (15/15), CTDB: disk not present in database.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Beach Boys - 1966 - Pet Sounds [AF 24K Gold Remaster 2009](HDCD)\Beach Boys - Pet Sounds [AF 24K Gold Remaster 2009].cue: HDCD detected, AR: rip accurate (56/56), CTDB: verified OK, confidence 53.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Beck - 1998 - Mutations (HDCD)\Beck - Mutations.cue: HDCD detected, AR: rip accurate (182/182), CTDB: verified OK, confidence 178.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Beck - 1999 - Midnite Vultures (HDCD)\Beck - Midnite Vultures.cue: HDCD detected, AR: offset 71, rip not accurate (0/183), CTDB: disk not present in database.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Beck - 1999 - Noboby's Fault But My Own (HDCD)\Beck - Nobosy's fault but my own.cue: HDCD detected, AR: disk not present in database, CTDB: disk not present in database.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Beck - 2000 - Stray Blues - A Collection Of B-Sides (HDCD)\Beck - Stray Blues.cue: HDCD detected, AR: rip accurate (5/5), CTDB: disk not present in database.
G:\AUDIO-CD\# HDCD\Beck - 2002 - Sea Change (HDCD)\Beck - Sea Change.cue: HDCD detected, AR: rip accurate (202/449), CTDB: differs in 22 samples, confidence 274. Hope this helps a bit Roy PS: tip: after scanning your whole disc for hdcd's, copy/paste the log you get from cuetools and put it in a txt file, then search for "HDCD detected", like you do with ctl-f. |
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 09:29:00 pm » |
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I dont think there is APP eye in the sky in hdcd. although there is 24/96 and 24/192 on DVDA.  |
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jarek
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 08:24:54 pm » |
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Hi Roy and Peter,
a file ANALYSIS.DAT in the CD directory contains HDCD=YES, whilst Cuetools detect this CD as being not HDCD. XXHighEnd shows it is HDCD. Does in because of ANALYSIS.DAT file contains the line HDCD=YES ?
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 09:33:51 pm » |
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Hey Jarek,
I think that cuetools is right, so its most likely not a hdcd.
Open the ANALYSIS.DAT file and change the HDCD=YES in to HDCD=NO
This avoids further error messages.
(you can send the troubled file to Peter anyway, so he can see were this goes wrong)
I have some albums that are the other way around, cuetools says they are hdcd,
whilst xx does not regocnize them as such.
Some work has to be done in this area, i guess
Best,
Roy
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 04:52:25 am » |
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Open the ANALYSIS.DAT file and change the HDCD=YES in to HDCD=NO Although this may solve some of the resulting problem, I am not sure how this emerges, and *then* this is not the solution (ok, at first). So : For me and now it is better to remove that line from the XXAnalisys.dat file, try to play the album again, and tell me whether the HDCD = Yes is there again (and most probably the error as well). In that case, DO send me a track please, because it has to be solved, and I can't do it without the example ! Thanks, Peter |
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Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 10:14:48 am » |
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Peter,
this must have been problem with the HDCD = YES line, becuase now I cannot repeat this kind problem. The file must have been created by previous version of XXHighEnd. Now, no matter what I do, I have always HDCD = NO, and no problem exists.
Thank you.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2010, 10:19:35 am » |
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Aha ! Yes, that is very well possible !
Ok, good. Thanks for mentioning.
Peter
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).
For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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