Titles that contain ASCII - extened chars do not play in XXHightEnd

[PeterSt]

Dear Jarek,

So, this may go from the one hurdle to the other.

... which it will ...

I applied what I intended in the below zip (containing XXHghEnd.exe only, to paste over your 0.9-y8-c install !). So, this will input Dos 8.3 Short Names to FLAC.exe. But :

I already saw that this isn't enough. Think of all wild combinations like an HDCD coming from a FLAC that again needing the 8.3 input, or MP3's by itself, AI encoding and all "chains" of preprocessing which by now have their own life (for input and output) while everything is full of matches (was this file already created ?) while now those matches have to anticipate upon the Short Names and a 100 things possibly going wrong. Caches won't work anymore etc. etc., and I am *not* going to change all this.

So ... You may try the below version to see if it helps in the first place, and notice this works with FLACs only. FYI : This is about changing the input to the FLAC's, so this will always work. Don't ask me what happens with the output, which in circumstances are normal file names (and not UnicodeTrack0001.wav as you may have seen), and now it *there* going wrong (maybe).

If it helps (what I assume) we can always see further, but I hope you will forgive me at not spending ages at working this all out, in the mean time creating a buggy environment again, while what we have now is the build up of all the relative work to, well, let it work.

Also, if we really can't find what causes this, it may be an idea to just build up an english version. *If* that is going to help you at all, because you may use the same whatever settings as you do with your polish versions, and end up with the same problem. Well, good to know by itself I guess.

In the mean time, you may look for config.nt files in your system32 folder or the root folder (notice that this will be hidden files), and see if there's a country= line in there, or even a codepage line (which may be a parameter to the country= line, I'm not sure). If you find those, remove them ! (but keep a copy).

That's it for now ...
Peter


PS: But let me know whether the zip helps you.

[PeterSt]

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[jarek]

Peter,

Your solution version D works, at least on the tracks that did not play on C version!

Below is related to standard vesion C.
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Just installed two NEW music servers with Windows 7 Home Premium ENGLISH 32bit on them, to avoid problems with some ASCII extended characters and error during playback on XXHighEnd ver.C. You can imagine that :

The problem is not system dependent (any windows: vista, 7, 32 or 64 bit) and not language dependent (english or polish is the same). I have the same problems on every computer I make. Not all ASCII extended characters are problematic. Some are not.

I installed all systems with default options, and installed XXHighEnd as should be (not for the first time . Still the same errors on "C" version.

Checked config.sys in root and config.nt and they do nto contain any lines you suspected.
Thank you.

Jarek

[PeterSt]

Man, what *are* you doing ???

(just a first response, and you know I predicted it ... I will think further !!)

[jarek]

I have some tracks that you could try and they do not play on C version, but they are greater than 30Megs. Cannot attach them. Maybe you use some FTP ?

[PeterSt]

Nah, never mind, they will work anyway here. But if you find a smaller one, I will try.
Or FileMail it ?

So ... You may try the below version to see if it helps in the first place, and notice this works with FLACs only. FYI : This is about changing the input to the FLAC's, so this will always work. Don't ask me what happens with the output, which in circumstances are normal file names (and not UnicodeTrack0001.wav as you may have seen), and now it *there* going wrong (maybe).

While the "Don't ask me what happens with the output" remains, I recall that I kind of overruled this with my mentioning that I would tweak it on the inputs only, which makes it independend from combinations (never mind if you don't understand this). But somehow this post is missing ?!
Thus IOW, I think I can solve it anyway, per your positive reply on the 09.y8-d version. Maybe I don't do it standardly, but only when you (or anyone for that matter) has a complaint. So, per current status :

Did you find any other problems regarding this with the 0.9y8-d version yet ?
If not, but you do later, let me know where (as implied earlier, could be any wild combination). In that case, post your XX log file of such a situation.
Also notice that I don't think you will find other combinations, because it seems to be FLAC.exe impeeded.

By the way ...
It wouldn't be so this is coming from cue sheets ? I think it theoretically can ... Thus, when you'd have cue sheets for your problematic files, I think I have set it up so that the track names in there prevail (somehow), and the codes (actually code pages) they were created with (a .txt file) will remain ... no matter what OS-language you use. I think !!

Peter

[jarek]

Dear Peter,

I did not find any problem with D version, but I did not have much time....
Please download the track that does not play in C version. The link is valid for 7 days.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/b16266h/n/track_-_jarek.zip

Best regards
Jarek

[PeterSt]

Hi Jarek,

Don't eat your tie, but it just plays. And all characters look good to me. Nice HDCD track too.
Btw I have quite some more albums from him. With quite some more of those characters.

What I did in this case (literally) :

Put the track in a G:\Downloads\Jarek\ folder.
Drag the track from Exploter onto the Playlist Area in XXHighEnd.
Click Play (Attended).

I Real-ly-don't-know.

[jarek]

Peter,

if you want I can send a test environmet (PC computer) with all the problems persisting and some tracks. Maybe you want this ?
This will be clear PC with sound card. English version of Win7. That is all.

If it only helps

Jarek

[PeterSt]

Hey Jarek,

Great that you offer this, but as we know the solution is already there. Of course at least I (but I think you the same) are completely puzzled about what's actually going on, so that could be reason enough to do it. But let's say we just solved it, and go on with a next thing.

Btw, notice that I sent you a PM in the forum, because all emails to you bounce.

Best regards and thanks for your efforts and help,
Peter

[PeterSt]

Dear Jarek - I most probably 100% sure around definitely have found the cause - and solution to this stupid thing.
Actually it comes from here : Tracks with strange letters where Flecko provided me with an example in Greek characters which indeed didn't work, BUT with the more or less coincidence that this was MP3 where I never built in your "solution" (because that was FLAC) and at testing it down to the bone I could find another angle of letting MP3 go wrong ... and once that happened I could easily mimic that for FLAC. Aha ...

It very much depends on settings and how you play and more and blahblah, but what it comes down to is that there are situations that not only the *input* to the FLAC conversion must be in normal characters, but also the *output* (because situations exist that the output name is the same as the polish/greek/etc. input name). So ... ... solved for the next version (probably 0.9z-3a).

I must say though, that it seems to me there is more to it (but it still should be solved). I mean, if I look at the Greek example, to me this looks like double byte characters like they exist for Chinese, Korean, Russian etc. - I think I talked about that earlier. Now, maybe (just maybe) it exists that you work with such a double byte "system" while I certainly do not; you could already have it / need it because of Russian you guys tend to learn and speak.

Peter

[JohanZ]

the same as the polish/greek/etc. input name). So ...  ... solved for the next version (probably 0.9z-3a).

Does it solve also the error "Music file does not exist" for this wav file? When do You release this version?

[PeterSt]

I am not sure ... maybe not (it doesn't look familiar to me).

Can you send me this track (the track is sufficient) without zippiong or FLAcing ot anything plus tell me how exactly this track will "flow" through everything. So :

- File Type (I will see that of course);
- Copy to XX Drive Y/N;
- Attended/Unattended;
- Do no start at all Y/N;
- Start during conversion Y/N;

Thanks Johan,
Peter


0.9z-4 is due for today. Otherwise hopefully  tomorrow.

[JohanZ]

So :

- File Type (I will see that of course); Wav
- Copy to XX Drive Y/N; Y
- Attended/Unattended; does not make any differance (I always play unattended)
- Do no start at all Y/N; N
- Start during conversion Y/N; N
- Send me this track.....; Later

I have test 09z-3 and 09z-2 in RAMDISK both they give the same message. When I start 09z-3 outside RAMDISK it plays this track!!?!!!!

[PeterSt]

A track just passed by here containing such characters (upside down question mark at position 4). I play from RAMDisk. WAV.

Is this solved for you ?