Message "XXHighEnd Demo" - then nothing !

[PeterSt]

I think a bunch more of you getting this message without anything further (player immediately quits) , without me knowing it.

Well, working on that right now ...

[PeterSt]

For those who have this, please use 0.9c and report back ...

Edit : ... which has been removed quite some hours ago, because it already brought sufficient info to proceed on. See next post.

[SeVeReD]

Hi  I'm running Winxp
Well I installed XXHighend Demo on my test comp (winxp). It worked after installing Netframework 1.1 from MS update site. On the small speakers (definitely non-tweaked non audiophile computer) it sounded promising.

Now on to another computer... my true front end for my audio room.  I checked that my dedicated and tweaked for foobar Front End
(Acer Aspire 9500 512 of ram winxp laptop bypassing kmixer by removing hardware in SoundAudioDevice and many processes shut off > Foobar/asio2k > Stello 100 usb Dac)
had Netframework 1.1 already on it and installed by unzipping XXHighEnd-09b into it's own folder on the C: drive. I created a shortcut to XXHighEnd.exe on my desktop (just like my test computer) AND when I start it up
I see the XXHighend Demo window, click ok, it disappears
Then
Nothing. no player
I would really like to try it on my main audio system.

ALSO
Does this player only play WAV files? Or will it read my .cue files? I ripped my cds to a single wav file and let a cue file handle all the info... will this not work for your player?

[PeterSt]

Status update :

As it turns out, at least Vista Business just does not contain the Framework DirectX features or Managed Code, but worse ... it also doesn't want to have it ...
This means no DirectX update will get in the necessary stuff, and here we are once again in what's called the DLL Hell.

Throughout the day I've been working offline with JohanZ to nail down what it all is what it (Business) wants to have, and after we worn out eachother a few hours ago Mercman came around so I could freshly start to wear out him while I was dead already.

Right at this moment the last things are sorted out by Mercman, and a new version will come up soon, or maybe a couple of hours later because I have to sleep first.

Anyway, both of you guys, thank you very much for your efforts, and Johan, I hope I didn't cause you a burnout by this !
Sometimes these things are just impossible to sort out on the developer location. Thanks !!

Maybe I should apologize for this stupidness, which was really unforseen. I'm still not sure how official it is that this DirectX stuff (for dotnet framework managed code applications) is not contained in Vista Business. Google just brings too much around this on Audigy and related things, so it's hard to find a proper page about this.

Note : This most probably is not related to those who have similar issues (Demo - quit) with XP. The solution might be the same though.

By this, do not draw the conclusion that XX is a DirectX player. It is not or at least partly not. It uses Device Enumerations and some more from it though.

[PeterSt]

Hi  I'm running Winxp
Well I installed XXHighend Demo on my test comp (winxp). It worked after installing Netframework 1.1 from MS update site. On the small speakers (definitely non-tweaked non audiophile computer) it sounded promising.

Thank you for sharing !

Now on to another computer... my true front end for my audio room.  I checked that my dedicated and tweaked for foobar Front End
(Acer Aspire 9500 512 of ram winxp laptop bypassing kmixer by removing hardware in SoundAudioDevice and many processes shut off > Foobar/asio2k > Stello 100 usb Dac)
had Netframework 1.1 already on it and installed by unzipping XXHighEnd-09b into it's own folder on the C: drive. I created a shortcut to XXHighEnd.exe on my desktop (just like my test computer) AND when I start it up
I see the XXHighend Demo window, click ok, it disappears
Then
Nothing. no player

There's a 0.9d version coming up in the next hours. It could be so that it helps your, but officially it shouldn't matter. But :
In 0.9d there will be some sort of error message for sure. Please post that here.
But before you do that, could you look in your Windows folder whether you have a DirectX for Managed Code folder hanging in there ? (below screencopy is from Vista, but that doesn't matter).

ALSO
Does this player only play WAV files? Or will it read my .cue files? I ripped my cds to a single wav file and let a cue file handle all the info... will this not work for your player?

For now, yes. In a future version at least the lossless formats will be supported, and your cue file is just a good idea (hence, why not).
If you want to continue on this, please post it in a separate topic.

Peter

[SeVeReD]

I looked in both of my WinXP computers and did not see a folder named  DirectX for Managed Code or even a folder that began with the name DirectX in the Windows folder.  Thanks, hoping to be able to listen to it soon.

Ill make another thread about the cue/wav file combo because it is important to me.  I can still listen to the single wav at least, but not see or choose the individual songs within the record. 

[SeVeReD]

WinXP here
Ok this gets me past the demo window and the player loads up on my front end computer for the audio sys.  But when I try to play a wav file I get an error message (long win message that makes no since to me, but i'd have to retype it here... maybe later).  Maybe has something to do that I use a single wav and cue for an entire cd and player having trouble with that?... i'll try to make/find a small wav file heh.

[PeterSt]

Just make a screen copy, or when that inconvenient, start with typing the first two lines only (that usually is enough).

Even if you have it going by means of smaller files, I'd still like to know the error so it can be solved.
Do note that your RAM is too few for the requirements (to stay out of all trouble you'll need 2GB for Engine#1 and #2 and then you'd be able to run tracks as long as one CD).

Edit : I think you used Engine#1 and tried to load a virtual track of 64MB. It can't have that on XP. (it's in the Help.htm). On Vista it can.
You'd be having an Out of memory error then.

[SeVeReD]

Just make a screen copy, or when that inconvenient, start with typing the first two lines only (that usually is enough).

Even if you have it going by means of smaller files, I'd still like to know the error so it can be solved.
Do note that your RAM is too few for the requirements (to stay out of all trouble you'll need 2GB for Engine#1 and #2 and then you'd be able to run tracks as long as one CD).

Hi again
I got XXHE to work after reriping a wav/cue file to multi-wav songs of album.  sorry too tired even to cut/paste here... here is a link to AA forum where i posted comments. 
I'll pick up more ram soon.

http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/2/21502.html

be back tomorrow to show you what it says with large wav file... you could rip a single wav whole album file with EAC too and try it?  or do you think it would just work for you because you have enough ram?  thanks

edit... i just read your edit
I think I can only run eng 1 because my usb dac is not a primary sound card  (can i make it the primary?)  eng 2 message pops saying it can only be used with the primary sound device

[PeterSt]

I edited my before post. You were quick.

Btw, I'm not going to browse other forums and have my info scattered. Hope you don't mind !

You must be as late as I was a few hours ago

[PeterSt]

Ok ok, I read it.

Well, the only thing I can say is : You mention the exact same phenomena everbody comes up with (including myself), so you don't need to be afraid it will be gone when you wake up later. You will discover more too.

As for the volume you mention (and you should put those things really overhere), there's no volume control in XXHighEnd, and any "louder" perceivement is due to higher dynamics. Just watch for that, and whether that could be right ... When you're ready for it, compare it with Engine#3/Double ...

Btw, we're going here. My own fault.

[SeVeReD]

K I found reasons why I was having difficulty. These aspects of my Front End computer held me up: my OS is WinXP; I'm running a USB DAC; and my USB DAC is not my primary sound card.
There are 3 "engines" to choose from in XXHE.

From the XXHE help file about the first engine it says "Over USB drivers, allows a maximum of 64MB tracks only" So, I can only run engine #1 if my wav files are 64MB or less. That's why my whole album single wav/cue files won't work with engine #1, but splitting them up into individual song wav files does... as long as the song isn't over 64MB.
This is the only engine I've been able to listen to.

Engine #2 also works with XP and gets around the 64MB limit, but only works with Primary Sound Driver. My USB DAC is not my Primary Sound Driver and so I can't use Engine #2. (Anyone know how I can change my sound card priorities to make my USB DAC the Primary Sound Driver?) Even if I could make this engine #2 work, I may not have enough ram to play my whole album single wav files... idk [i have 512k of ram... i can have up to 2 gigs of ram]

Engine #3 still uses Primary Sound Driver only and only works with Vista. My laptop is running WinXP... but I'd still run into my USB DAC not being the PRimary Sound Driver even if I picked up Vista.

From all I've read, this Player is a work in progress... so all these "constraints" might change... i hope so.

[PeterSt]

This time you ask the question later than the answer. 

http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=125.0

Whether the answer is of some use is another thing.