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« on: March 09, 2010, 03:26:45 pm » |
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Yes, it can be done  CPU: Intel E5300 Heatsink: Scythe Ninja Mini (if you have a taller case the Thermalright HR-01 is the best for fanless operation) PSU: Winmate DC-DC psu with Gateway 150W wall wart* I'll post tomorrow some benchmark of temperature and voltage stability. Average temps at closed case are around 51°C for both cores at default speed (2,6ghz) and voltage (1.1V). They can be improved once I undervolt the cpu and I plan to do that, especially close to summer. Ambient temp is here min 23°C. The Winmate psu is a wonder, no issues at all unlike the famous pico-psu, it works powering just the VFD (which i did to test both parts prior to mounting). The guy who makes it, is still selling and supporting it, and looking for the best wall AC adapter. *see: http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55153and http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55353&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90 |
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OrigenAE H5 case | E5300 fanless | 8GB RAM | Winmate DC-DC fanless PSU | OS on SSD | Renesas USB3 pcie card | Belden highspeed usb cable | Audio-gd dac19 NOS with sigxer F1 | My_ref_FE mono amps | Albedo Apex speakers
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 03:54:07 pm » |
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Ambient temp is here min 23°C. You are listening to music, outside, at the top of Italy's highest mountain, right ? Are you wearing headphones ? |
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13* (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).
For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.
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manisandher
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 05:31:36 pm » |
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I've just bought a few Zalman TNN 300 cases. I've only put one together so far with the following components:
- Gigabyte EG45M-UD2H (almost impossible to find)
- E8600 3.33GHz
- 120GB OCZ Vertex Turbo
- 4GB RAM (will increase later once Peter releases XXHE 64-bit)
- RME AES-32
Totally fanless and totally silent!
Mani.
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Main System:
Phasure Mach III (Win 14393.0 on RAM-OS / controlled by RDC, / connected directly to music server / XXHighEnd 2.11 / Minimize OS / Engine#4 Adaptive / DB=4096 / Q1=10 / xQ1=15 / Q3,4,5=1 / SFS=4.00 / XTweaks = 34, 10, 0, 0, 0 / Straight Contiguous / Clock Resolution = 15ms / Scheme 3-5 (low/realtime) / 8x Arc Prediction / switch #5 'up/off' / Unattended) mobo USB3 port -> Lush^3 -> Phasure NOS1a B75 G3 -> 8m Blaxius^2 -> First Watt F5 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima horn speakers
Office System:
Phasure Stealth II -> Lush^2 -> RME ADI-2 Pro FS R -> Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Marvel horn speakers
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Jack
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 06:49:51 pm » |
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Hello
I use a small Asus board with basic onboard graphics ( I don't use a monitor, or keyboard or mouse for that matter!)
Basic 2 channel sound (turned off in bios)
2.8 4core chip
4gig 1066 RAM
2 32gig SSD's striped
No optical drive
Passive psu
No fans anywhere no motors anywhere
It's hard to get used to turning on a PC & not hearing anything!!
Win7 64bit & dedicated to music ( a bit like myself!)
Happy daze
Jack
ps must update my sig
pps seeing as I'm here, thanks again Peter!
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Telstar
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 10:45:37 pm » |
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Ambient temp is here min 23°C. You are listening to music, outside, at the top of Italy's highest mountain, right ? Are you wearing headphones ? LOL today you are in a silly mood Peter. I meant minimum 23°C, not minus |
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Software:
W10 14393 Pro x64 | XXHE 2.10 | MinOS | Q=14x1/0/0/0/0 | SFS 5,19 mixed contiguous | Nervous rate 1 | 4096k buffer |
Hardware:
OrigenAE H5 case | E5300 fanless | 8GB RAM | Winmate DC-DC fanless PSU | OS on SSD | Renesas USB3 pcie card | Belden highspeed usb cable | Audio-gd dac19 NOS with sigxer F1 | My_ref_FE mono amps | Albedo Apex speakers
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Telstar
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2010, 10:48:57 pm » |
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I've just bought a few Zalman TNN 300 cases. I've only put one together so far with the following components:
- Gigabyte EG45M-UD2H (almost impossible to find) Hi Mani, I have the same mainboard, VEEERY good one Which PSU? Can you post the temps of the E8600 (everest or realtemp)? |
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Software:
W10 14393 Pro x64 | XXHE 2.10 | MinOS | Q=14x1/0/0/0/0 | SFS 5,19 mixed contiguous | Nervous rate 1 | 4096k buffer |
Hardware:
OrigenAE H5 case | E5300 fanless | 8GB RAM | Winmate DC-DC fanless PSU | OS on SSD | Renesas USB3 pcie card | Belden highspeed usb cable | Audio-gd dac19 NOS with sigxer F1 | My_ref_FE mono amps | Albedo Apex speakers
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Telstar
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 10:51:39 pm » |
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I also noticed that with the new PSU the system *sounds better*.
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Software:
W10 14393 Pro x64 | XXHE 2.10 | MinOS | Q=14x1/0/0/0/0 | SFS 5,19 mixed contiguous | Nervous rate 1 | 4096k buffer |
Hardware:
OrigenAE H5 case | E5300 fanless | 8GB RAM | Winmate DC-DC fanless PSU | OS on SSD | Renesas USB3 pcie card | Belden highspeed usb cable | Audio-gd dac19 NOS with sigxer F1 | My_ref_FE mono amps | Albedo Apex speakers
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manisandher
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 12:16:08 am » |
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Can you post the temps of the E8600 (everest or realtemp)? Here you go... What's really strange though is that according to Windows, I have two different core speeds! Anyone know what's going on here? Mani. |
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Main System:
Phasure Mach III (Win 14393.0 on RAM-OS / controlled by RDC, / connected directly to music server / XXHighEnd 2.11 / Minimize OS / Engine#4 Adaptive / DB=4096 / Q1=10 / xQ1=15 / Q3,4,5=1 / SFS=4.00 / XTweaks = 34, 10, 0, 0, 0 / Straight Contiguous / Clock Resolution = 15ms / Scheme 3-5 (low/realtime) / 8x Arc Prediction / switch #5 'up/off' / Unattended) mobo USB3 port -> Lush^3 -> Phasure NOS1a B75 G3 -> 8m Blaxius^2 -> First Watt F5 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima horn speakers
Office System:
Phasure Stealth II -> Lush^2 -> RME ADI-2 Pro FS R -> Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Marvel horn speakers
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manisandher
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 12:42:34 am » |
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BTW, the PC had been on for 3-4 hours before I took these temp measurements. I think things remain cool enough in there. Which PSU? I'm using the fanless PSU that is integrated into the Zalman case - here are the specs... Mani. |
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Main System:
Phasure Mach III (Win 14393.0 on RAM-OS / controlled by RDC, / connected directly to music server / XXHighEnd 2.11 / Minimize OS / Engine#4 Adaptive / DB=4096 / Q1=10 / xQ1=15 / Q3,4,5=1 / SFS=4.00 / XTweaks = 34, 10, 0, 0, 0 / Straight Contiguous / Clock Resolution = 15ms / Scheme 3-5 (low/realtime) / 8x Arc Prediction / switch #5 'up/off' / Unattended) mobo USB3 port -> Lush^3 -> Phasure NOS1a B75 G3 -> 8m Blaxius^2 -> First Watt F5 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima horn speakers
Office System:
Phasure Stealth II -> Lush^2 -> RME ADI-2 Pro FS R -> Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Marvel horn speakers
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AUDIODIDAKT
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 04:26:37 am » |
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What's really strange though is that according to Windows, I have two different core speeds! Anyone know what's going on here?
Mani
Hi mani, I believe it says that its a 3.33Ghz processor that RUNS at 2.67Ghz. Do you have your processor underclocked ? Otherwise check BIOS for actual values, or run cpu-z If *all* is already at your wanted settings, just ignore it. (or it tells you the truth and you are actual running at 2.67Ghz) But thats just what you are doing, underclocking, right? 330.30 x 8 = 2.6664 Ghz Roy |
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W7 Ultimate x64 Tweaked/60 GB SSD OCZ Vertex (1.50)/Gigabyte GA-EP45-EXTREME/Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz/OZC Reaper 2x2GB/
Esi Juli@ soundcard (KS)(x2v-v0_978)(Tweaked Coaxial)/Nvidea Geforce 9800 GTX+/750 Watt Zalman ZM-750-HP/100 MB Fiber-Optical Internet/
(XXHighEnd 0.9z-2)
#4Engine, Special Mode, 48 samples, SFS 12MB, DAP, Scheme=3, Q1=1, Q2/Q3/Q4/Q5=30,30,0,0, PlayerPrio=Low, ThreadPrio=Realtime
x-Allow Format Change, x-Stop Services, x-Copy to XX-drive by Standard, x-Start Engine3 During Conversion
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manisandher
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 12:35:09 pm » |
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Yes, of course you're right.
But I hadn't actually intended to underclock - it seemed the bios did this by default. In any event, there is no issue. Thanks for pointing this out.
Incidentally, underclocking the CPU (in my case by 20%) seemed to have little effect on how XXHE performs. The soundcard/interface/DAC drivers seem to have a bigger impact...
Mani.
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Main System:
Phasure Mach III (Win 14393.0 on RAM-OS / controlled by RDC, / connected directly to music server / XXHighEnd 2.11 / Minimize OS / Engine#4 Adaptive / DB=4096 / Q1=10 / xQ1=15 / Q3,4,5=1 / SFS=4.00 / XTweaks = 34, 10, 0, 0, 0 / Straight Contiguous / Clock Resolution = 15ms / Scheme 3-5 (low/realtime) / 8x Arc Prediction / switch #5 'up/off' / Unattended) mobo USB3 port -> Lush^3 -> Phasure NOS1a B75 G3 -> 8m Blaxius^2 -> First Watt F5 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima horn speakers
Office System:
Phasure Stealth II -> Lush^2 -> RME ADI-2 Pro FS R -> Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Marvel horn speakers
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 03:15:51 pm » |
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Hello Mani
I'm intrigued as to why you have gone for such a 'complicated' mobo. Are you running a 'home theatre' set up from it as well, or do you turn all those facilities off?
I went with the adage 'Less is more'. As far as the chip goes, I feel what we need is 'horsepower', cache size is almost irrelevant as none of the data is repeated(unless one listens to the same track all night!) There are many mobo/chip combos available out there that can 'number crunch' efficiently, which is all we require, no?
Regards
Jack
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 03:34:51 pm » |
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Those Gigabyte Boards are kinda overclockers boards,
That means lots of buttons (or settings) to fiddle around with.
Also there are power settings in BIOS to play with (undervolt, underclock)
Also better copper-lines on mobo for cleaner powering
And the list goes on.......
As you understand those boards have capabilities to our needs;
"Complicated" as in your words, accually means more possiblities to turn stuff off
This is a good thing and they are not that expensive.
Gigabyte sells good stuff and have great service !
But hey thats just my opinion !
Don't worry much about "horsepower", a decent dual-core will do fine. (or for that matter almost any combo will do)
For the feeling of "instand" and lesser power consumption get a SSD drive to put your OS on.
Roy
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W7 Ultimate x64 Tweaked/60 GB SSD OCZ Vertex (1.50)/Gigabyte GA-EP45-EXTREME/Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz/OZC Reaper 2x2GB/
Esi Juli@ soundcard (KS)(x2v-v0_978)(Tweaked Coaxial)/Nvidea Geforce 9800 GTX+/750 Watt Zalman ZM-750-HP/100 MB Fiber-Optical Internet/
(XXHighEnd 0.9z-2)
#4Engine, Special Mode, 48 samples, SFS 12MB, DAP, Scheme=3, Q1=1, Q2/Q3/Q4/Q5=30,30,0,0, PlayerPrio=Low, ThreadPrio=Realtime
x-Allow Format Change, x-Stop Services, x-Copy to XX-drive by Standard, x-Start Engine3 During Conversion
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Jack
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 04:18:44 pm » |
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Hello Roy
I entirely agree about Gigabyte. I've had many of their boards & yes, good for overclocking. But I do not see the point in this project to have all manner of things turned off! We can choose not to have them in the first place. Quality audio, which this is about, usually benefits by having less (potentially) in the chain.
Likewise, just my opinion.
Bye
Jack
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manisandher
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 04:36:23 pm » |
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I'm intrigued as to why you have gone for such a 'complicated' mobo. There aren't too many mobo options when you're using a Zalman TNN 300 case (it's more than just a matter of finding a micro-ATX mobo - the layout also needs to accomodate all the copper piping in the case). Also, with no active cooling in the case, I was interested in the Gigabyte's extra copper to help with heat dissipation. If I could have found a simpler mobo that fitted into the Zalman and had the extra copper, I would happily have gone for it. But as AUDIODIDAKT says, this mobo wasn't very expensive... bloody difficult to find though! Certainly, the extra cost of this mobo over the few other compatible ones is totally insignificant compared to the cost of the Zalman case, E8600 CPU and OCZ SSD. Mani. |
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Main System:
Phasure Mach III (Win 14393.0 on RAM-OS / controlled by RDC, / connected directly to music server / XXHighEnd 2.11 / Minimize OS / Engine#4 Adaptive / DB=4096 / Q1=10 / xQ1=15 / Q3,4,5=1 / SFS=4.00 / XTweaks = 34, 10, 0, 0, 0 / Straight Contiguous / Clock Resolution = 15ms / Scheme 3-5 (low/realtime) / 8x Arc Prediction / switch #5 'up/off' / Unattended) mobo USB3 port -> Lush^3 -> Phasure NOS1a B75 G3 -> 8m Blaxius^2 -> First Watt F5 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima horn speakers
Office System:
Phasure Stealth II -> Lush^2 -> RME ADI-2 Pro FS R -> Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Marvel horn speakers
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