09-y8 wallpaper problem

[Scroobius]

Hi Peter

Could this be the fastest support question to a new release. I was just posting to say that wallpaper does not work in 09-y7 when you posted 09-y8. Well I quickly loaded y8 to see if it resolved the problem. It does not!!!.

When running y8 in unattended the wallpaper does not load on the desktop.

Sounding lovely though on first try

All the best

P

[PeterSt]

To be honest ... something like this has been reported, but questions from me about it lead to, well, nothing. So, no opportunity to solve it.

Maybe this isn't an easy one though. So, if you (or anyone) can help to explain what it exactly is which won't allow to show the Wallpaper (maybe for the first track only) .. I'll be happy to solve it ! (and here it just works ... but you guessed that).

Thanks !
Peter

[Scroobius]

Hi Peter,

With y8 if I tick the "unattended" box and click "play" the xx player disappears as you would expect but the wallpaper does not appear on the desktop. With y4 the xx player disappeared and the wallpaper appeared on the desktop correctlly.

But there is something else I have just found out related to hotkeys. I have set up the hotkey many times in y4 and it always worked fine whether running in attended or unattended. With y8 hotkey works fine in "attended" mode. The environmental variable is correctly set and the message comes up correctly listing the y8 directory I am using. So in attended mode I can vary volume etc using keyboard keys - no problem.  But if I run xx in "unattended" mode the hotkey function does not work and on trying to use it I then get error messages stating "remote operation problem" (or similar) and xx stops working, I get loud white noise from the speakers and strangely the wallpaper then appears on the desktop. Very strange. These are problems I do not have with y4 - I used y4 again to check and it all worked fine.

Sorry to set you head scratching so late on a Sunday evening.

Let me know if there is anything else I can try - these are similar problems I was also experiencing with y7.

All the best

P

[PeterSt]

So, I guess these two must be related ...
White noise (which is different if I'm allowed to judge what you perceive) has disappeared here for a while, as AutoHotkey just works together with the Wallpaper. Which ... *of course* won't imply I don't believe you !!

What are your settings regarding this ? Prio's, Core Appointment Scheme, what you play (FLAC etc.), upsampling (type) ... Edit : Engine, Mode, Buffer setting ?
Start During Conversion ?
Copy to XX Drive ?

Thank you very much ... really appreciated. Sorry for all those questions.
Peter

[Scroobius]

Hi Peter,

All files are FLAC some 24/96 some 16/44 problems occur regardless of file type.  Attached are jpg's of settings BUT this happens regardless of settings. It happens whether I run engine #4 or engine #3.  For me 09-y8 works OK (including hotkey's) with engine#4 or engine#3 and regardless of settings provided it is in "attended" mode. Just to clarify the "white noise" the following sequence happens: -

1.  I press "play" in "unattended" xx player disappears but wallpaper does NOT appear
2.  player continues to play OK UNTIL I use any hotkey command at which something BAD happens as follows:
3.  the taskbar at the bottom of my screen won't come up from its auto hide position
4.  if I then open xx (I can still access it from a 3rd party menu I use but not from the task bar) and try to shut it down my pc appears to completely lock and presumably the USB disconnects because that is when I get the "white" noise or very loud buzzing noise.
5.  I then need to reboot to get anything working again.

Just a couple of things - when xx running in unattended and no wallpaper showing "changewp" is not running and system resources (for what its worth) show cpu usage 5 to 30% and memory 70%. Core duo processor.

I dont get any of these problems with 09-y4.

Hope that helps let me know if you need any more info.

All the best

P

[PeterSt]

Thanks for your extensive response !

Allright. What does happen when you also tick Running Time OSD and OSD Text ?


But now ...

3.  the taskbar at the bottom of my screen won't come up from its auto hide position

So, do you say this because you think I put it in auto hide mode (not so), or do you say this because YOU put it in auto hide mode ??
If *you* do this, it may be key to the problem ... (if the above mentioned OSD checkboxes not already help).

?
Peter

[Scroobius]

I ticked the Running Time OSD and OSD Text boxes. I then ran XX in unattended mode and after a delay of 30 secs the wallpaper was shown - the first time. The second time I did exactly the same the wallpaper came up after about a minute and then the computer crashed - Microsoft message came up stating that the computer would be shut down in 1 minute due to serious problem. It is currently going through startup repair sequence so it was a big crash. I did try AutoHotkey the first time the wallpaper came up and the little rotating circle came up in the middle of the screen that normally shows when xx has recognised the command but nothing happened the command was not executed.

The taskbar at bottom I always have in autohide and it works fine normally using 09y4 engine#3 its just that when problems occur it will not come up and then I know something serious has gone wrong.

Perhaps it is resource limitations causing the problems but why do I get these problems with enigne#3 running in 09y8 I could understand the low latency with engine#4 causing problems. Isn't engine#3 under 9y8 the same as 9y4 in resource requirement?

All the best
P

[PeterSt]

No, nothing changed to Engine#3. But, the showing of the Wallpaper did;
So, apparently ticking those OSD checkboxes is related; I must be able to do something with that.

Thanks !
Peter


PS: Notice that, as with the previous solved problem with not showing the Wallpaper at Attended, things went in a loop, eating your resources ... This may be similar.

[Scroobius]

I just noticed that there was a service mobsync.exe running that was hogging cpu (50% wow) I have disabled it (cannot imagine why I have not seen that before maybe it was not running when I have checked in the past.

Anyway I do not seem to have the crashing problems anymore but everything else is the same. Wallpaper only comes up if osd's are ticked and hotkey does not work.

all the best

P

[PeterSt]

Can you try the hotkey thing without the taskbar auto-hiding ?

[PeterSt]

Btw, I tested with autohiding, but I don't see the problem.

Wallpaper thing is solved. Will upload it later.

[Scroobius]

I tried it without taskbar autohiding but no change the problems persist

[PeterSt]

I really don't know what to think of this. Or what to ask.

Is it possible that you post a XX, X3 and X3PB log file right after this happened ? But I guess this will be difficult. But if you succeed, try to explain to me how your stopped the noise etc., so I can interpret the log files for it.

Thanks a lot.
Peter

[Scroobius]

Peter - what do you want me to replicate? I do not think the taskbar problem is directly relevant as it only signifies that something major has happened in the operating system because everything becomes locked including taskbar (i.e. I do not think taskbar is directly implicated). It is not really a problem now since I stopped mobsync.exe and now have more resources. But the other problems persist like AutoHotkey does not work - well it sort of does if wallpaper is loaded and I use a hotkey command to say increase volume one step (1.5db) nothing happens until I stop a track running via xx and then immediately the volume changes.
P

[PeterSt]

Paul, I too don't talk about the taskbar (auto-hiding) because it just isn't te cause. It's only inconvenient while the problem is there (I'm only letting you know I understand the problem (hopefully));

But what I want you to replicate is a tedious job, if not impossible. Ok, you could incur for the situation, and next imply a reboot and then grab the log files. But this is hardly I'd like to ask someone to do (or maybe I just did ).

Btw, can I take it that you tried this with the 0.9y-8ya version ?
Re: No Wallpaper at first track in 09y_7

If not, maybe that solves it, like for Johan it solved the Wallpaper problem which I really did not expect.

Kind of important : During further testing, untick "Show Mirror Back" in the CoverArt section; I have seen that certain combinations of "music folder registrations" (like Cue File + no Track Numbers or whatever) cause the working out of the track listing at the backcover run in a certain too long loop (think of 10 seconds) which together with the volume change may hold up the volume change and next internal buffers get mixed up. Do note though that this will not be your situation since you didn't get the Wallpaper to begin with, so it is just to be certain it is not this. When everything works (later, hopefully) you can switch it on again).

May it help you : if the volume change ends up in noise, indeed something will be holding it up. So, if possible you may examine TaskManager and the cpu graph to see what's happening. There *will* be a small peak always (right before you receive the noise), but after that things should turn back to normal. So, you might tell me what you see, and don't forget to mention the Appointment Scheme you used at that moment.
Btw, what surprises me, and what I only just saw, is that you are using Engine#3. I don't recall ever receiving any such noise from that one ...

One last thing : If you receive the message "something wrong with remote command" (similar) notice that there are two sorts of this message : one which ends with Playback must stop, and one which does not end with that, and only notifies you that the remote command couldn't be processed. Please indicate which of the two you receive, and (thus) how that message exactly is.
I am now starting to think you receive the first version of this (playback must stop), which just detects something went wrong, and you will be receiving a kind of static when all would continue, but which is prevented (uhm).

Sorry for the inconveniences ...
Peter