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« on: February 14, 2010, 02:26:08 pm »

Hi  I`ve just started playng music from my laptop cause untill now I haven`t heard anything that could compete with my CD-PLAYER ! But I must say, that with XXHIGHEND and the M2TECH USB/SPDIF device I´m getting closer ! There`s no doubt in my mind, that this new software has no competition, compared to what I`ve heard so far ! Foobar, Win Media Player and so on !

But I´ve got a serious problem with the stability of the XXHIGHEND software. When I play through the M2TECH somtimes i succeed in playing 2 or 3 numbers before my laptop shuts down ! Once I played almost 8 numbers and then shutdown again :-( I`ve installed the latest drivers from Marco at M2TECH for kernel streaming !

Is there any minimum specs for the CPU, to handle the XXHIGHEND program ? I`m curently using an older laptop IBM T41 with a 1,6GHz processor and 1,5 GB ram .



I hope someone out there can guide me :-)
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2010, 03:12:58 pm »

Hi, and Welcome ! of course !

I'm not sure what to say, because so far the M2Tech wouldn't play at all with XXHighEnd, and for reasons which shouldn't solve themselves (because I didn't do anything). So, new drivers eh ? Well ...

Although I can't be sure at this moment, I would say this is a device which takes 24 bits only, and thus should go with a DAC Needs setting of 24 (and DAC Is of 24/192). However, this is not supported for KS yet. This means you use it at "Needs 32", which can't be right (I think !).

There are no real requirements to the PC, and a reboot sure isn't normal. Don't ask me what happens when you play a "24 bit only" device in 32 mode though.

Best is to wait until it is supported, which hopefully is the upcoming week. I am waiting for an M2Tech myself ...
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 03:28:30 pm »

Hi Peter

I just got the new drivers for the M2TECH from Marco by mail a few days ago ! He states that they should support any player in DS,KS and Wasapi ! I`m not into all the technical stuff like you !

I`ve been playing the M2TECH through my Accuphase DP-67 cd player ! It has an ekstra digital input coax and toslink ! It shows on the display that I`m playing 44Khz and this must mean that I`m playing 16bit through the M2TECH or ?????

I hope that you`ll get it working when you recieve your own M2TECH ! What about the Stello U2, is this compatiable with the XXHIGHEND player ???
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 04:47:52 pm »

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I`ve been playing the M2TECH through my Accuphase DP-67 cd player ! It has an ekstra digital input coax and toslink ! It shows on the display that I`m playing 44Khz and this must mean that I`m playing 16bit through the M2TECH or ?????

Yes ... but not via USB, which is where the "24 bit only" thing would happen.

About the U2 ... I wouldn't know why not. Everything I know of plays, BUT this is Engine#3/WASAPI (and it is there where the "Needs 24" option works). So, with Engine4/KS the only thing not supported right now is that "24 bits only".

Maybe someone else with Vista or W7 and a HiFace/M2Tech can confirm whether it requires the "Needs 24" setting (USB connected !), now the WASAPI drivers are there.
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 12:02:00 am »

Gonz,
You're playing it through HiFace with Windows XP? What version of HiFace drivers are you using?

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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 12:21:47 am »

Well, I did read about Hiface and I am getting very interested about it. Seems like new XX version will support 24-bit only device in KS mode and this means it will be possible to use engine#4 with DAP and QAP modes using this tiny little thing. Will wait then on Peter's impression about this amazing little HW... Seems like this device will be my laptop saver - I will be able to fully utilize XX's features with all engines!!! Great!

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 12:26:59 am »

Well, I did read about Hiface and I am getting very interested about it. Seems like new XX version will support 24-bit only device in KS mode and this means it will be possible to use engine#4 with DAP and QAP modes using this tiny little thing. Will wait then on Peter's impression about this amazing little HW... Seems like this device will be my laptop saver - I will be able to fully utilize XX's features with all engines!!! Great!

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I'm sending out a modded HiFace for evaluation & I've modded another unit for somebody that I'm sending out tomorrow. I tested it today in a recording studio using SPDIF out from my Inspiron 6000 laptop running Foobar V1.0 to a Tascam DAC unit & playing through ATC speakers. The sound engineer said it sounded fantastsic & ordered one from me Happy

I'd love to hear XXhighend on this set-up! Gonzo, what drivers are you using on the Hiface
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 12:32:32 am »

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I'm sending out a modded HiFace for evaluation & I've modded another unit for somebody that I'm sending out tomorrow. I tested it today in a recording studio using SPDIF out from my Inspiron 6000 laptop to a Tascam DAC unit & playing through ATC speakers. The sound engineer said it sounded fantastsic & ordered one from me
Thanks for answer. I am more interested in how HiFace can be used exactly with XX player. And BTW, I live in EU, where can I order it? Cannot find any links on their site?
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 12:48:48 am »

Sorry, didn't mean to be trumpeting my mods - look at Distributors section.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 01:05:09 am »

Hi jkeny,

Just did some reading about your HiFace mods on diyAudio

Nice job, I2S, battery powered......you take it all the way.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 01:08:54 am »

Hi jkeny,

Just did some reading about your HiFace mods on diyAudio

Nice job, I2S, battery powered......you take it all the way.
Thanks, but I don't want to hijack this thread Happy
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 07:09:00 pm »

Gonz,
You're playing it through HiFace with Windows XP? What version of HiFace drivers are you using?

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I really don`t now which version it is, but I could mail them to you !
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 07:19:45 pm »

I really don`t now which version it is, but I could mail them to you !
Sure gonz, that would be geat & I'll have a go tonigt - I emailed Marco but he's probably busy!
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 09:12:20 pm »

I really don`t now which version it is, but I could mail them to you !
Sure gonz, that would be geat & I'll have a go tonigt - I emailed Marco but he's probably busy!

Just found out that the drivers are 1.03.2010 do you still want them ???
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 11:09:26 am »

Yes, gonz, please email them - the drivers I have are the ones on M2Tech download area - version 1.02 - so I would be interested in what you have.
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