Re: Help with Kernel Streaming 0.9y-5-01

[jkeny]

Hi peter,
I just downloaded & tried this with my HiFace - the good news is that it recognises the HiFace - te bad news is that it fialed to write to pin during initialisation. I tried it with settings at 24bit/192 & 32bit/192. Same error in both cases.

[Robin Hood]

Thanks Calibrator

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Bring up the Juli@ control panel from the system tray. If you are seeing VU meter activity on analogue output you should be right to go after you connect to the RCA output sockets.

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The whales be singing. 

But why do I want to do this?  I am under the belief that using the Juli@ to feed an external DAC is sonically superior than having the Juli@ do the D/A inside the computer.  And with all the Juli@ capabilities like Direct Wire that I don't understand won't I ever get digital out of the Juli@ with Engine4 like I can with Engine3?

[Calibrator]

And with all the Juli@ capabilities like Direct Wire that I don't understand won't I ever get digital out of the Juli@ with Engine4 like I can with Engine3?

Have you seen this post .... http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=1063.msg9015#msg9015

Contains some old drivers that Peter found after some digging that works under Win7 to give digital output via Engine#4.

Not tried it under Vista yet though so you can be the guinea pig if that's the OS you use.

The subject of analogue vs digital is something you can experiment with. If you have an external DAC of better quality than what is onboard the Juli@ then it is likely a better choice to go the SPDIF route. If not, then analogue will likely give better results. Like most things audio, the individual needs to try all options.

Have fun experimenting,

Russ

[JoaquinM]

This is what I am getting:

Load Thread (1)
Restart
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-02
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-06
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-06b
-06c
-06d
-07 (Stream Status)
-09
Start KS here
Name wanted  : Dispositivo de audio USB >> #global  Number of KS devices found : 2
Filter found : \\?\pci#ven_1039&dev_7012&subsys_80b01043&rev_a0#3&61aaa01&0&17#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\wave
Name attempt : SoundMAX Digital Audio
Filter found : \\?\usb#vid_0d8c&pid_000c&mi_00#6&3975e3d&0&0000#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\global
Name attempt : Dispositivo de audio USB ** Found ** Failed
No ambiguous devices found.
Device allocated but can't play; Check DAC Settings, applied Sample Rate etc.

This doesn´t make sanse, as I can play perfect through USB to my Dac-Magic with 0.9y-4.

[manisandher]

I'm constantly running out of buffer...

... something my wife's known for ages 

Mani

[PeterSt]

Mani, I think your DAC Needs should be 32, not 24 ...

(no matter with Engine#3 you can use both (or wasn't that you ?)).

[manisandher]

Peter, yes I normally have it set to 24 bits. However, setting it to 32 doesn't seem to make any difference, as far as Engine#4 is concerned. As you said, Engine#3 is happy either way, so I stick with 24.

As you know, I tend to use a laptop (actually both the computers I've tried Engine#4 on so far have been laptops). At some point, I'll try it with the Weiss connected to the TI firewire 400/800 PCI card in my desktop. I think the Weiss is just very particular about the firewire chip - certainly, it doesn't work with some/many of them.

But do you know what might be causing my buffer issues with Engine#4... and why I don't have any with Engine#3?

Mani.

[bernharddiner]

also running out of buffer, in attended and unattended, but in unattended even faster

after the update to the #02 the sound does not come back as before

split file size at 12MB

thanks

[PeterSt]

after the update to the #02 the sound does not come back as before

Sorry for a possible stupid question, but what do you mean by this ?


And what happens when you set the Split File size to 60 or so ?
(the point here is, I have in mind the lower limit of 12MB can't work with Engine#4, but I currently forgot why).

[PeterSt]

This doesn´t make sanse, as I can play perfect through USB to my Dac-Magic with 0.9y-4.

Hi Joaquin,

It doesn't make sense to me either, unless you are using the setting "DAC Needs" 24 bits (for 0.9y-4 at least). So, do you ?

This not assumed, I guess I need to build in some more log data to find out what is going on. But by now it sure starts to look like USB is not working for most of you. On this matter, please let know your system (and maybe better put it in your signature so it allows me to compare easily with others), also knowing that USB wasn't supported by KS forever. So, I have the feeling that something must be added in order to let USB work properly. But what ?

Thanks,
Peter

[boleary]

Haven't tested the last update, but with 9y-5.01 kernel streaming works perfectly with my M-Audio usb device. The Hiface, however, does not.

[jkeny]

Haven't tested the last update, but with 9y-5.01 kernel streaming works perfectly with my M-Audio usb device. The Hiface, however, does not.

But is the HiFace being recognised properly now as in my log printout above?

[JoaquinM]

It doesn't make sense to me either, unless you are using the setting "DAC Needs" 24 bits (for 0.9y-4 at least). So, do you ?

No, I´m not. I have set my DAC as 16-44.1... And I 24 or 32 bits options are greyed our for me. (may be it´s because I use Engine 1 with 0.9y-4?).

[PeterSt]

Joachin, that is because a "DAC Is" 16 bits never can need 32 or 24. So that is normal.

[PeterSt]

Haven't tested the last update, but with 9y-5.01 kernel streaming works perfectly with my M-Audio usb device. The Hiface, however, does not.

But is the HiFace being recognised properly now as in my log printout above?

Yes, but it doesn't say all for two reasons (I know by now) :

1.
I expect the HiFace to be a "DAC Needs" 24 bits device, while Engine#4 isn't prepared for that currently (in the area this has to be created this is relatively complex plus I have no "24 bit only" device to test it with -> no solution as long as that situation remains);

2.
There is something with USB which is "different", and I'm not sure what it is yet. A few minutes ago I tested an USB DAC, and while everything looks good, it just doesn't produce sound. It is my estimation that when I solved this, chances for other USB devices will be a lot higher. I am working on at least this right now !

Peter