Re: Help with Kernel Streaming 0.9y-5-01

[PeterSt]

Johan - I enabled the Virtual memory again (it gives too many problems for me otherwise), but still no "preep" heard tonight.

Give it (and me) some time. It can be worked out I think.

[PeterSt]

Must be some kind of incompatability with xx.

Hi - I sent you an email earlier ... I didn't take into account the "24 bit only" (which the Hiface most probably is) for KS yet ...
Not sure whether this will crash your system, but sound (apart from static) can't be coming from this ...

I will try to make something of this (but will not be able to test it myself).
Peter

[Per]

Hi Peter,

Just want to chime in and say that I downloded the 0.9y-5-01 update yeasterday. It was straightforward to choose KS and get Engine 4 running with sound  Excellent sound by the way. Even on my very (very) modest setup I could hear a slight difference but an important one. Voices (and everything else btw) was more emotional - just like you say, Peter. I never got better sound from a computer. Look forward to be able to hook it up to my stereo.... THANKS, you have really done a FANTASTIC job getting everything in place with Kernel Streaming (hundreds / thousands ? of hours) Just for us. Your are my Hero....

Only had two problems

1) Sound stopped with an "Engine 3 stopped / did not start" error about halfway into a playing list (album) Wonder why it said Engine 3 and not 4 (checked that I had actually choosen KS)

2) Turning the volume down / up in a big step more than 30-40 db (sliding the lever XXHE with the mouse) produces an "Out of Memory Exception" error. I have had that error with Engine 3 in earlier versions too.

THANKS again, Peter, for struggling so hard. Please take care, too.

Per

[Calibrator]

Your are my Hero....

haha ... don't trip over your cape Peter 

Cheers,

Russ

[Calibrator]

1) Sound stopped with an "Engine 3 stopped / did not start" error about halfway into a playing list (album) Wonder why it said Engine 3 and not 4 (checked that I had actually choosen KS)

I get quite a few of the Engine stopped messages ( using KS ) if I do much else on the PC other than just let it play. It is not as robust currently in that regard compared to Engine#3.

Per ... that message about seeing Engine#3 mentioned rather than Engine#4 when you expect it is normal. Engine#4 is embedded within the Engine#3 file and the system doesn't know any better.

Cheers,

Russ

[Per]

I get quite a few of the Engine stopped messages ( using KS ) if I do much else on the PC other than just let it play. It is not as robust currently in that regard compared to Engine#3.

Per ... that message about seeing Engine#3 mentioned rather than Engine#4 when you expect it is normal. Engine#4 is embedded within the Engine#3 file and the system doesn't know any better.

Thank you very much for the explanation on both of my questions, Russ.

Per

[Edit] I have not tweaked my Vista yet and MS Security Essential is still running even though I have shut down Realtime file monitoring in order to get XXHE running - so a lot of resident software, services and other garbage are still running even when I do not touch the PC. Thanks again for your kind help.

[PeterSt]

Hi Per,

1) Sound stopped with an "Engine 3 stopped / did not start" error about halfway into a playing list (album) Wonder why it said Engine 3 and not 4 (checked that I had actually choosen KS)

I seem to have definetely solved this (the stopping). Will put it up tonight.
The mentioning of the wrong Engine name is a matter of going through the program and make it adaptive to what it really is (how could I know that I would be using the same program for another means.

2) Turning the volume down / up in a big step more than 30-40 db (sliding the lever XXHE with the mouse) produces an "Out of Memory Exception" error. I have had that error with Engine 3 in earlier versions too.

Indeed I saw this behaviour the other day (with Engine#4 anyway), and I am not quite sure yet what causes it. Oh, it is clear by itself (some additional memory is needed), but the process really adding up the memory should free it, and it doesn't. It sure has my attention. Things in the basis have already changed, and if all is right you will be using less memory to begin with (Engine#4 only). So, it may just avoid the out of memory. And otherwise : lower the Split File parameter ... this really makes a difference.

Peter

[Per]

...And otherwise : lower the Split File parameter ... this really makes a difference.

I will try that. Thanks a lot.

Per

[boleary]

Twice today XX would not change tracks; instead I just got static. Am leaving now for road trip and won't be back till Thursday to test again. Using Engine 4. See ya later!

[JoaquinM]

Hi everybody,


I am trying to try the new 9.5, but so far no success. First a little introduction: I use a DAC Magic fed via USB. I tend to avoid using the sound card (SoundMax), as it resamples to 48khz. So far (up to 9.4y) I have been using the C-Media USB audio device that works with the Dac-Magic. It sounds very good using Engine 1.

Now about the new 9.5. With version 00 no KS device appeared, so I decided to wait. Now with 01 I am offered 2 paths:
KS: SoundMax Digital Audio >> #wave
KS: Dispositivo de audio USB >> #global

The first (SoundMax) does indeed work, through SPDIF, but I´d prefer to avoid it (I don´t want the card to resample to 48khz, you know). Besides, SPDIF has continous dropouts. The second option (USB), the one I am obviously interested, simply doesn´t produce sound. The player seems to work fine, you see how the time register advances to the right, but no sound is produced. What to do?

9.4y keeps working fine with "C-Media USB Headphone Set" audio device.

[manisandher]

Apart from the KS device showing in the device selection box, 0.9y-5-01 works in exactly the same way as 0.9y-5-00 for me.

@ Attended:
I get about 10 secs of sound, and then nothing at all for a while. The length of the silence depends on the split file size - the smaller this is, the shorter the length of the silence before music resumes for another 10 secs or so. If split file size is reduced to 12MB, then there is no silence, but I get 'jumping' instead, like a badly scratched record. In this respect, 0.9y-5-01 really does sound analogue
BTW, DPC shows latency going crazy.

@ Unattended:
Does not play. XXHE just comes back, as though I've pressed alt-X.

I think all of this is to do with my Weiss firewire driver. I get the exact same behaviour on two totally different machines*. Also, my CPU load goes up considerably once the Weiss is switched on. Changing the 1394 host controller driver can change things dramatically - with the 'official' TI driver, I get CPU oscillating periodically going from nearly 0% to nearly 100%, with nothing playing. The best behaved seems to be the 'legacy' driver.

* Engine#4 plays (in the way described above) on both machines. Engine#3 only plays on my regular machine (with a TI 1394 chip) - but this is to be expected as the Weiss is incompatible with the 1394 chip (Ricoh) on the other machine - although Engine#4 'works' on this incompatible machine

Any ideas Peter, or should I look to getting another interface? (I hope not, but I sure would like to get Engine#4 running properly.)

Mani.

[Robin Hood]

I've had enough trials and tribulations for the day.  I believe I am able to get 0.9-y501 with Engine4 to play under Vista with my Juli@ card.  It runs with no errors and no sound but I believe that's because I have not connected my interconnects to the analog outputs on the card.  I assume that the device KS: Juli@ Audio >> # esi_wave1 is for the analog outputs.  If not someone please tell me what this device refers to.

Engine3 in 0.9-y501 under Vista with my Juli@ works fine and I have sound through my usual Juli@ digital outputs.

Version 0.9-y501 also provided the perfect visual interface on my XP computer with a Lynx AES16 (identical to that on Vista), but that setup does not work and I am getting a runtime error for the XXEngine3.exe file even though I have selected Engine4.

With the earlier versions of XXHE, 09-y4 and before, I get music but the visual interface is messed up with no way to adjust the overlapping windows to reveal the hidden options.  If 0.9-y502 includes Engines 1 and 2 then perhaps I will at least have the lesser sound one can expect with these engines with a perfect visual interface.  Of course what I really want is for Engine4 to work on my XP setup.

[Calibrator]

It runs with no errors and no sound but I believe that's because I have not connected my interconnects to the analog outputs on the card.  I assume that the device KS: Juli@ Audio >> # esi_wave1 is for the analog outputs.  If not someone please tell me what this device refers to.

Engine3 in 0.9-y501 under Vista with my Juli@ works fine and I have sound through my usual Juli@ digital outputs.

Bring up the Juli@ control panel from the system tray. If you are seeing VU meter activity on analogue output you should be right to go after you connect to the RCA output sockets.

My music server is busy at the moment transferring music from reel-to-reel tapes under Vista partition ( where I don't have latest build installed ) so I can't check, but that # esi_wave1 option sounds right from memory.

Russ

[PeterSt]

Will put it up tonight.

Ok, didn't make that, mainly because I found a strange bug when I thought I was finished, and it is not one to just remove because it is in the area of "if it didn't bring static, it should after solving that bug".

I'll try to be back on the other things as soon as possible. But maybe post your X3PB log files by standard. Maybe they don't help (also depending on the problem of course) but otherwise I'm in the blind for sure.

I won't be in tomorrow before late. Sorry for that.
Peter

[PeterSt]

Allright, I put it up anyway. But always start playback at the beginning of a track. Pause-Play is a no-go just the same.

This version won't let play devices which didn't play before, but the X3PB log file may show me important information.
Peter