Chad,

I've had this experience with other speakers, specifically the LX521 that needed a fair amount of distance from the front and side wall.  This has never been my experience with the Orelo.  What I like about them is that you can position them relatively close to the front and side walls--I think I was just too close.  I'm also trying to optimize for listening from multiple positions.  I've listened close and far back.  Different experiences.  The Orelo works well in both cases once the toe-in is set properly.  Too much toe-in was a problem I had.

First time poster here. Hi all!

I have owned Orphean horns for years. During this time I have tried several bass setups. Best of these is Sigma (made by Bert)  and second is  my diy Orelino with three 12" Beyma drivers.

If you have a perfect room you can skip the rest of my message...

My advice for those who struggle with the sound quality is to move the speakers away as much as possible from the walls. And start to listen at close range.  And I mean close. When I realized that only then I started to hear the speaker and not the room. You'll know when you got it close enough, trust me.

From the speakers I have 1, 5 m to side walls and about 2 meters to the front wall (the wall behind the speakers).

Also the room in my experience is better to treat with diffusers. Maybe with bass traps for the problem frequencies.

At Bert's place the listening distance to the speakers was longer and somehow there the room did not affect the sound. So I am not saying that close distance listening the best choice for every room.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards, C

Hi Peter,

The music is loud and clear in the submarine!

thanks

Oops ... Are you still there Arjan ? I read it, forgot about it and then the forum does not remind me of it any more (no "new"). Apologies !

Yes, sure you can order a new RAM-OS disk. But not for the full price. ;-)
Make that 130 euros for the SSD in this case and the work to be done. Including shipping.
If you can transfer that to the bank account and send me an email that you  did so, then I will make one for you.

If you can't see the bank account easily, drop me an email.

Kind regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,

Can I just order a new ram-os from the shop?
Could you also e-mail me the driver for the dac?

kind regards

Quick update.

I spent some time over the last days working on the placement of the Orelos.  The sound after some adjustments is definitely better.  Biggest improvement came from reducing toe-in, and moving the speakers a little forward (more distance from front wall).  Also by accident or good luck, I seem to have found a spot where the sound stage really has become 3D. 

- Speakers are 116" apart
- I listen on a sofa 132" away, and also from further back
- The back wall is quite a distance away (300" or more)
- Placement is asymmetric, because the L speaker is a the intersection of the living room and dining room, so no side wall nearby.  R speaker is very close to sidewall.

Sound is so good that my interest in experimentation is much is reduced.   

I forgot to add this :

This is because you would fully eliminate your D/A converter of choice. Thus, the path would then be :

DAC -> MiniDSP-ADC -> DSP -> MiniDSP-DAC.

Peter

Yes, I have the Pro version.

The subject already reminded me of the allowed usage, which would be not using it for mid/high. So only the replacement of the Hypex would be allowed, hence for Bass only.

A schematic would be useless. Even telling in advance / in theory what to do is quite impossible. Taking out the Hypex would lead to something but it still would be a tedious job.

Something else is that I did not sort out the possibilities of the RME and if it can't bear 10 or so PEQs then it will be useless.
Also, for Bass only, MiniDSP would be sufficient IMO.

Peter,

Is the Pro version of the RME that you have?  I'm thinking of possibly getting one and experimenting.  The Linkwitz DSP people are using the minidsp Flex 8, which I think is quite limited.

Ramesh