Peter, Thanks.

I think, (my memmory is short - my HDD's are long, hopefully haha), that is related to my stupid use of my new HDD's which are designed for ethernet com and forced to go USB com. My load speed here in this mode is as low as 5MB/s.
That will be changed to day to 80 MB/s or so.

I can't remember if I had this message before I swoped to the new discs? I think I had? But....

So as soon as I go high speed here again and the message eventual occour, I shall check up further upon it.

Gerner

Well, Peter it happens....but seems to me it's more related to my HDD's temporarely slow com with the LT.

Today I go high speed com between the HDDs and the LT. I'll watch up for the phenomenon and report.

It is not neccesarely related to long tracks. It happened also to tracks not bigger than 25 MB.


Ohh...while writing I remember I have only 1 GB RAM, but have an extra 1 GB liying around not in use. I can plug those in if it's related to that?


Gerner

• XX didn't start within expected time = Doesn't go to next track on the playlist

Gerner

Morning there....


I can....

Gerner

Waiting....

Gerner 

Hi Peter


He, you can't make me crazy as I already am 

Yes I allowe you to deal with only #3.

I can accept whatever new things appearing on the desktop. Just tell what it does. He he...

But the result would be that it can now satisfy everybody fanatic about either 9D and 9J. (Me belonging to the last cathegory). 

This way it will become "ULTIMATE".

Gerner

Hi Peter

You might very well be right from your theoretical views.

In practice I hear this:

• Playing with 9D, 9J or even spinning a CD record on my TEAC drive either through my OS-DAC and my NOS-DAC

I hear no changes in the filter slopes or the way the drivers interact, which I am almost sure off I would be able to detect.

Gerner    Sorry I think it is.

When jitter influences the xover area of two drivers, it is a catastrophe. Of course it depends on the phase alignment that was achieved with the speaker for starters, but assumed the creator of it did his best to make it optimal, jitter will shift the connection between the two drivers.
In order to understand this better, let me first try to explain what I only could explain myself at last on the influence of jitter on the base 2 days ago

I leave my previous copy of your quote stay here.

I know that the digital domain is not seperated from the anolgue domain the way I think you mean it. Say the Q1 works etc.

I was hitting at to ask you how you think this is more crusual damaging at the slopes in a filter than when a given driver is not under influence of the filter as such? How does it happen that "In its simples form this implies more energy. When this energy occurs on the slope of the xover (either side), it rises, and shifts to the "inside" of the xover. At that point it is destroyed."?

Is it something you can meassure it does, or is it the meassuring equipment that also implies jitter the mic reacts too?

I refer here to your observations of suddently finding one version of XX shouting out 25 db louder in the bass compared to another version. Is this "25 louder" really caused by jitter? And if it is, yes damn, then of course it influnce the slopes of a filter if it sneaks in there...but remember we meassure our curves to be as wanted and what you say is then when XX is in the game it screws everything up?

Sorry being a bit stubbern here, but I can't understand it. 

Your question about which type of filters "this thing" applies to: It must be all filters. Not only the phaselinear one piston filters we are playing arround with.

Gerner

Oh yeah Dave... nah... good morning-, day or evening...never sure about the clock you place. 

As you figured out already, yes, I'm also a "switcher". Or at least I became one.

Noticing that good people still shuffled around with older XXs and found something good about the retired versions versus the 9J, made me do the same.
My first report to Peter, think that was by mail, that 9J Q24 and 9D too me didn't sound quite alike and second I compromised at 9J Q7 or Q14 depending on the track, I did a lot of testing the original D and the new J. I observed the same as you. D with a more integrated wholeness in it, a rounder more forwarded (?) completeness, can I say more uncomplicated to listen to or what ever; the slighter higher pixeled more sparkling and seemly more transperant, more spacious and lean back J, became after all "my" preferred player.

After this long marathon test, I do not open the 9D anymore.

That is also likely as you point out very play-back system dependant. That's why I wote for still have a Q1 controler in a future version. It is to me a very nice tool. A tool that everyone can benefit from no matter the gear they have.

Well as Peter all the time tells us, that his program layout always leaves a design to comprehend what he has in mind in the future, and let's say D deos not meet that need, and J does. That must leave Peter in a diffult choice? Don't know if my assumations are correct?

One thing I'm quite sure of: We have not seen that last version and I don't expect Peter will come out one final day and say: That's it folks! The ULTIMATE XX.

PS! That's why I love this game. Peter has choosen to let all comment on the versions released along the way and the next version is based on the responds he get. What a guy. I have not seen many manufactorers work that way. Feedback leads to revisions meeting critics and remarks comming in.

Isn't that just wonderful? 

Gerner

Hi Peter

I was thinking if you could merge say 9D to 9J -> 9K having all players inside one desktop window.

A window where you choose your player version just like we can choose freely between #1, #2, #3, prorities , double and upsample...etc... just by checking them on and off.

I don't know if that takes too much time to develop or there is a conflict making it work that way.

At least it could replace all the XX windows I have open at the same time in order to compare between them.

OK, I go further...Can you by means of the XX desktop access the the RME and set the sample rate here?

What crazy questions....

Gerner

When jitter influences the xover area of two drivers, it is a catastrophe. Of course it depends on the phase alignment that was achieved with the speaker for starters, but assumed the creator of it did his best to make it optimal, jitter will shift the connection between the two drivers.
In order to understand this better, let me first try to explain what I only could explain myself at last on the influence of jitter on the base 2 days ago

Hi Peter...

When you write as you do: "jitter will shift the connection between the two drivers". How can you explain that in other words than you do? Asking for an analog answer...eeehhh?
I mean, I understand a tone can stay longer or shorter and that is related to jitter. But how can jitter relate to x-overing two drivers that merely is tied to it's own analog AC world. How can jitter reach out for changes here?
The Q1 controller surely does quite some difference to the same track, but how does that relate to a filter network that controls the roll off of let's say two drivers?

Asume two drivers has been forced by a filter to act phase linear = like one driver. Now it's "one" driver, right?
Then let's take one driver only and what does jitter do with that then? There is no x-over to be found here.

Is my questions silly to you? 

Gerner

I haven't ran into this problem.  Anything the same about the files that don't play?  Like diacritical marks, long files names??? I don't know, just guessing; look for what is similar about the tracks.  I'm still using single album wav files instead of multi song wav files.... something about them I like ... (hint).  I am happy, but will be happier once cue file support is made... but, hmm, I still listen to entire albums.

No clue Dave.

Let's see when the Master is back from his stay in Alkatraz. Maybe he has a clue. Yes I am sure he has....

Gerner

Maybe this is a piece of useful information?

The tracks (Complete folders) i cannot play with XX, works very well in the MS player, Real Player and Foobar Player.

So?

Gerner

I do use EAC. Always. And indeed we all have different reactions from the XX in all our set-ups around.

The program you mention (nice little thing BTW) did not cure my problem. So you are right. It is something else.

Gerner 

Well however that works..it's a kind of medicine to a fault that appears elsewhere. There must be a way that this, however it works, could be avoided?

Gerner