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Title: Onkyo Wavio SE-90 PCI sample rates ? Post by: Fidelio on October 06, 2009, 07:09:19 pm Peter, there is something I don't understand about Arc Prediction. I have to turn on set DAC at 18/96 at least to be able to turn it on in. My sound card can handle up to 24/192, but it cannot upsample. The source material has to be e.g. 24/96 to be able to run the card at 24/96. Consequently, I cannot use Arc Prediction for 16/44.1 material because my sound card doesn't have upsampling capabilities, am I right? Or is the upsampling done by XXHE? No matter what settings I try, I cannot get Arc Prediction to run with 16/44.1 material.
Could you please clarify? Title: Onkyo Wavio SE-90 PCI sample rates ? Post by: PeterSt on October 06, 2009, 08:06:22 pm The source material has to be e.g. 24/96 to be able to run the card at 24/96. Consequently, I cannot use Arc Prediction for 16/44.1 material because my sound card doesn't have upsampling capabilities, am I right? Or is the upsampling done by XXHE? No matter what settings I try, I cannot get Arc Prediction to run with 16/44.1 material. Pwew ... First off, it is XXHighEnd doing the upsampling. So, on that matter the source material would be 176.4 when you tick the Quad checkbox. All it need next (I'd say) is choosing Arc Prediction for the Upsampling method, and then you're there. I would say this can't fail. But let me know if it does (you may have to set your card to 24/176.4 manually in order to let it work). Peter Title: Onkyo Wavio SE-90 PCI sample rates ? Post by: Fidelio on October 06, 2009, 09:33:27 pm The source material has to be e.g. 24/96 to be able to run the card at 24/96. Consequently, I cannot use Arc Prediction for 16/44.1 material because my sound card doesn't have upsampling capabilities, am I right? Or is the upsampling done by XXHE? No matter what settings I try, I cannot get Arc Prediction to run with 16/44.1 material. Pwew ... First off, it is XXHighEnd doing the upsampling. So, on that matter the source material would be 176.4 when you tick the Quad checkbox. All it need next (I'd say) is choosing Arc Prediction for the Upsampling method, and then you're there. I would say this can't fail. But let me know if it does (you may have to set your card to 24/176.4 manually in order to let it work). I cannot set the sample rate to 176.4, there is no option for it in the sound card control panel. My guess is that the drivers don't support it? Title: Onkyo Wavio SE-90 PCI sample rates ? Post by: PeterSt on October 06, 2009, 09:58:54 pm But can you set it to 192 then ? if not, there is still hope (I guess) ...
Title: Onkyo Wavio SE-90 PCI sample rates ? Post by: Fidelio on October 06, 2009, 10:38:27 pm But can you set it to 192 then ? if not, there is still hope (I guess) ... Yeah, I can set it to 24/192. If I do that, choose "double" and Arc Prediction and try to play a 16/44.1, file I get "Endpoint create failed, the dac does not accept this byte sequence" and a box with "2/32/88200/705600/8". Title: Re: Onkyo Wavio SE-90 PCI sample rates ? Post by: PeterSt on October 07, 2009, 11:19:16 am The error message coming from XXHighEnd is correct. But by asking for the 192 I just wanted to confirm whether you could ever find such settings at all. So yes.
Well, I found this (translated I think) page : http://www.onkyowavio.com/12-onkyo-wavio-se-90pci.html and it says it can do 176.4 (and 88.2). I downloaded the Vista driver, but it didn't tell me much other than that it's rather (or really) old. The readme in there is unreadable, so what to do. Note though that there's an alternative driver on that page ("VIA Envy24 Audio controller family driver") but I don't know whether it will bring more. Before diving into other drivers, try to look for an "auto" setting. If it is there, it will probably help. But then I guess you tried everything and all already. And you were so enthusiast ... (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=643.msg4629#msg4629) :sad: Title: Re: Onkyo Wavio SE-90 PCI sample rates ? Post by: Fidelio on October 07, 2009, 12:23:49 pm The error message coming from XXHighEnd is correct. But by asking for the 192 I just wanted to confirm whether you could ever find such settings at all. So yes. Well, I found this (translated I think) page : http://www.onkyowavio.com/12-onkyo-wavio-se-90pci.html and it says it can do 176.4 (and 88.2). I downloaded the Vista driver, but it didn't tell me much other than that it's rather (or really) old. The readme in there is unreadable, so what to do. Note though that there's an alternative driver on that page ("VIA Envy24 Audio controller family driver") but I don't know whether it will bring more. Before diving into other drivers, try to look for an "auto" setting. If it is there, it will probably help. But then I guess you tried everything and all already. And you were so enthusiast ... (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=643.msg4629#msg4629) :sad: And I am enthusiastic again! I am an idiot, I just set it on "auto" like you said, and double/Arc Prediction works! I got hung up on the fact that I had to 1: set sample rate in the sound card control panel and 2: then go and set the same rate in the Windows sound settings. If I choose auto, I can only set the previous setting from the card control panel in Windows control panel. The VIA control panel for the sound card now says 88.2 or 176.4 when I choose double or quad, yay! Gonna try some listening later on :soundsgood: Thanks for the help Peter, like always :drinks: Title: Re: Onkyo Wavio SE-90 PCI sample rates ? Post by: PeterSt on October 07, 2009, 01:16:03 pm Hey, good ! That is more than I hoped for.
Well, at least you have a nice oversampling DAC in there, so let me know what you perceive from it. Good or bad doesn't matter (for you I hope good of course), but let it know. Not in this topic please, but in the other one, or maybe even a new one. And have a drink from me. :) Peter |