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Title: Optimizing setup?
Post by: briefremarks on March 19, 2023, 07:24:20 pm
All,

Rediscovered the joy of music again, as I said after working non-stop for many years especially the last two.  So I have some questions on further optimizing the Phasure setup, and would be grateful for any thoughts suggestions.

- I would like to be able to keep the Stealth III and music server (original XXHE) further apart from the NOS1 DAC mostly for aesthetic reasons.  Is there a limit for the Lush^3 cable length that should be kept in mind.  I see 200 cm as max length on the website.  Is 300 cm feasible without degrading SQ?  The alternative would be a longer ET^3 cable between Stealth and music server. 
- I use the Orelo for both 2-channel (with NOS1/Mach III) and as L and R speakers for home theater and music streaming.  Currently, I have a separate DAC/amp path for HT/streaming (Classe SSP -800 + Bryston amps) and use the external speaker inputs on the Orelos.  This is quite convenient as I can use the input switch on the Orelo to toggle between the two setups.  The downside is SQ, especially for music streaming, but only in comparison to the 2-channel SQ. Are there others using NOS1 or Orelo for music streaming (without preparing files)?  Would you be able to share setup and thoughts?
- I'm also interested in any thoughts on optimal placement of the Orelos.  They seem quite resilient to placement.  Presently, they are very close to the side walls (20 cm), and about 1m from back (front) wall.  Very little toe-in.  Wall behind speakers is a bookshelf filled with books (that are actually read).  No sound treatment of any kind side or behind the speakers.  There is plenty of open space behind the listening position, and so essentially non-reflective.
- Anything else that others here have done to optimize setup of the NOS1 and Orelos? 

From the peace and quiet on this forum, I'm guessing there is a level of happiness on setup within this community.  My questions are not from restlessness as much as from a rediscovery of listening to music again.

Ramesh


Title: Re: Optimizing setup?
Post by: PeterSt on March 25, 2023, 05:29:28 pm
Hey Ramesh,

We can well say that Audio is "dead" so to speak, were it for new desires. It can be sensed from anywhere -  even I myself play music now instead of testing it (for SQ).
On some side note : I have joy automatically from the more and more and more improving Lush^3 config I am now using for I think two years (the Roberto config). I don't know how it is possible that this "burn in" keeps on going - and maybe I am dreaming it. But anyway, I don't need to do anything and next week it sounds better again. :yes:

The Lush^3 is not made longer than 2 meters because chances are fair it won't work in the random system. You can try the 3 meters of course, if you only don't send it back - haha. For the Phasure-Phasure application the chance exists that it works well - theoretically I could try it myself, right ?
If you really have the option just the same to use the ET^3 at the longer length - really no issues there; I would take that then.

FWIW, my Orelos are 50 cm from the (glass) backwall. No issues whatsoever. At the sides I have just over 1 meter.
Mine are toed so they cross just behind me (that is at over 6 meters of distance).

Best regards,
Peter
 


Title: Re: Optimizing setup?
Post by: listening on March 26, 2023, 11:37:23 am
I would like to draw a comparison to photography: Now that cameras and lenses are becoming more and more technically perfect - sharper - there is a clear trend towards less than perfect, analog photography with character. At the moment I shoot with a pinhole lens with the greatest pleasure. Let's see when I will enjoy modern lenses again ...

Georg


Title: Re: Optimizing setup?
Post by: briefremarks on March 28, 2023, 08:10:32 am
Peter,

The Roberto configuration for Lush^3 is definitely a find.  I want to confirm that the B side W-G is with the White on the jumper with the red dot, and the green on the one next to it.  Is that correct? Is there a photograph of the configuration on the forum?

Ramesh


Title: Re: Optimizing setup?
Post by: PeterSt on March 29, 2023, 11:50:00 am
Hi Ramesh,

I have always said that where the wires go is unimportant, but not everybody agrees with that. Anyway, Roberto does not think it is important either, so go ahead with just putting them next to each other (but people tend to have for sequence B-W-Y-R-G, so say the B (or whatever comes first for what you use) always in the leftmost pint (with the red dot)).

Peter