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Title: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: phantomax on January 30, 2018, 03:59:11 pm
Hello Peter,

Recently I could manage to make a pseudo "RAM OS". I always wanted to purchase one by you  but my budget for audio is sctrictly limited by "superior instances". This contingency and the fact that I am curious and insensate by nature decided me to give it a try.

At this point I must say that I don't recommend anybody to attempt to do it . The main reason is that the canonic RAM OS  price is absolutely fair (I suspected it before but I know  possitively now), but FURTHERMORE, is a dangerous process and very tedious too. I get my PC dead two times :o :scare: and I can assure you that I have more gray hairs after this. WATCH OUT: You are running on the knife edge doing it.

Well, after a week or so (I had spare time this month) I could get the system booting from RAM and XXHE running flawlessly in min OS from Remote Desktop, etc.
 
But (there is always a BUT) there were two issues:

  1 -  It lacks the interoperativity of the original RAM OS between boot menus,atach-detach, and "copy settings to". It's an inconvenience but I can  live with it. I am missing something but I can't see it and I don't want to mess around more. :stop:

  2 -  I canīt get the timers settings working properly. After asking for change the program tells that no reboot is possible so I can't make them effective.

For the firts issue I honestly can't ask you for help, but for the second one I dare to ask you for advice. :blush2:


Whatever your answer, thank you very much

Best regards.

Maxi


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: PeterSt on January 30, 2018, 04:17:47 pm
Dear Maxi,

I would tell you right away about the timers when I could, but it is impossible because consistent with the whole setup (of two boot loaders). :sorry:

But super of you that you managed !

Regards,
Peter

PS: I think it took a year before "we" could use the timers ourselves in XXHighEnd. Maybe the difference is not even audible. :)


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: phantomax on January 30, 2018, 04:24:03 pm
Dear Peter,

The truth is that the sound is absolutely fantastic and I am enjoying it a lot. It was before with the last version and settings but now is EVEN better! :yahoo:

Best regards

Maxi


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: PeterSt on January 30, 2018, 04:48:44 pm
 :)


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: phantomax on February 09, 2018, 08:40:07 am
Hello again  :coocoo:

I don't want to mess around more. :stop:

Did I want to cheat myself?     :reboot: ....Some things fixed (others not):

  - Atach, detach and "copy settings to" working now.
  - Menu interoperativity working on BASE disk (but not in RAM)  :scratching:
  - Timer settings working in BASE disk (but not in RAM)  :dntknw:

...and my signature, whose absence I had not noticed. :swoon:

Regards,

Maxi


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: PeterSt on February 09, 2018, 09:18:13 am
Hahaha, well done !

Maxi, maybe you ran into the issue of
error 28: selected item cannot fit into memory

I know what causes it, but once it is there I don't know how to solve it. And not for me, but for someone else.

Kind regards,
Peter


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: phantomax on February 09, 2018, 10:18:37 am
Hello Peter,

I don't get that error. I think is map related. The entrance created in the program menu points to an error 15: file not found. So I have to change second 0 to 1 in order to boot the OS. There is a discordance there and all the things I've tried donīt work.
But, anyway, it's OK like that, because sincerely, I never thought I would get so far.  :foolplane:

Thank you

Maxi


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: phantomax on January 16, 2019, 12:05:57 pm
Hello Peter,

Since my RAM OS was in an old recycled HDD I decided make a backup copy in an SDD just looking to the  future because rigth now I only have 16 GB RAM. Once copied I tried it just to verify that it was OK but for my surprise  all run flawlessly with only 16GB.                               
Am I wrong or it was supposed that you need 32GB RAM to use the RAM OS on SSD? :scratching:. Of course you have checked, my RAM OS is sui generis and probably  I am missing  something, but I would like to let you know because there maybe someone who doesn't purchase an SSD RAM OS just because not enough RAM.   

Best Regards

Maxi

PS. BTW the sound with the last settings is the best i've ever had.


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: PeterSt on January 16, 2019, 12:36:22 pm

Hi there Maxi,

The RAM-OS SSD as we sell it, is an SSD for one reason only : it boots faster with the larger OS which is pre-installed.

So the story is a bit different from your idea about it :
First people have 32GB of RAM, then it is convenient to have more space for the OS (on the HDD as how we ship it, this is IIRC 9GB), like 17GB or so (I forgot the number). Thus, the OS file which is loaded in RAM aned which ends up as Drive C:, has been made larger and together with that it was put on an SSD because this is read faster during the copying to memory. But on an HDD it would have worked just the same.

The other way around (your case) :
If you just put the OS, in its container of 9GB to an SSD, it remains 9GB. It will load again faster, but the HDD was fast enough. And so nothing really changed.

I guess what you want(ed to do) is make the space for the OS larger. Well, this can be done by means of expanding the OS file. If you need that, I can send the procedure to you by email. Or maybe not, because you made the whole thing yourself and already will know how to do that ? Anyway you can apply the exact same to the HDD and the SSD, as long as they contain sufficient space.

And now this has all been said : the SSD we ship is half smaller than the HDD (SSD is 240-250GB, HDD is 500-750GB).

Best regards,
Peter


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: phantomax on January 16, 2019, 01:34:25 pm
Hello Peter,

Understood (I think), obviously I was missing something: the larger OS on the SDD.
The truth is that I I never thought about the possibility/necessity/convenience of make the space for the OS larger. I made it of 11,4 GB and the system tells me that I have only 821 MB free.
I simply thought it was better not to make it too big considering the available RAM.
The OS load quite faster, but I only had in mind have a copy because although I was taking notes when I did the original disk I am not sure I can reply the whole process succesfully :swoon:.


Thank you very much!

Maxi


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: PeterSt on January 16, 2019, 01:55:29 pm

Maxi,

Once in a while I make a new one from the ground up. Last time was a month or so ago (for a new W10 Build). But because it was some longer ago, I couldn't do it and found errors in my own notes. And then to think that *each* time I create a new one, those notes have to be adjusted, just because it is such a huge pile of things to do, and often you forget to wite down instructions. So that surfaces the next time ...
Eh, good luck ?
(but I still can hand you the expansion procedure)

Peter


Title: Re: Spurious RAM OS
Post by: phantomax on January 16, 2019, 02:10:36 pm
(but I still can hand you the expansion procedure)

Peter,
I will be very grateful!  :thanks:

Maxi