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Title: VINYL CLEANING Post by: christoffe on March 20, 2016, 07:20:03 pm Hi,
Vinyl cleaning with an astonishing result. (amazing sound afterwards) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHiGODezyzY Procedure in contradiction to the video: First cleaning (of a batch of appr. 10 records) 3 times with alternating rotations, let’s drip off the water, store the wet LP in the vertical against a wall or etc. After appr. 10 minutes clean the wet LP again 6 times with alternating rotations each. Lets drip off the water and dry both sides with a very thin cotton cloth (old undershirt, Egyptian cotton), no droplets of water shall be on the surfaces only (no more drying, the grove is still wet), and store the wet LP in the vertical until it’s dry. I’m using the cleaning fluid intended for the Audio Desk machine (1 small bottle for 5 ltrs) with very good results. Investment: appr. 100 € Joachim Title: Re: VINYL CLEANING Post by: manisandher on March 22, 2016, 08:45:05 am Hi Joachim, I'm busy for the next week or so, but will definitely take a look at this once I have my feet back on the ground.
Cheers, Mani. Title: Re: VINYL CLEANING Post by: PeterSt on March 22, 2016, 08:57:00 am Maybe Joachim can make a YouTube himself, because the one presented really doesn't make sense.
"See ? a lot cleaner !!" Oh, is that so ... :P Start with a well treated LP and not one which was used as frisbee and comes directly from the beach. You know, I start to be allergic to such stupid YouTubes. It destroys the internet plus its wastes time. Peter Title: Re: VINYL CLEANING Post by: christoffe on March 22, 2016, 10:20:52 am He, he
I'm coming back later this day and you'll be surprised. I'm digitizing the cleaned LP's and ............ . Joachim Title: Re: VINYL CLEANING Post by: christoffe on March 22, 2016, 01:38:50 pm Hi,
Prior the digitization of the vinyls (I’m familiar with LP’s since I was twelve) they have been cleaned with an “ultrasonic unit” from Gläss. Since the “LAST” application came on the market in the 80ies the LP’s were treated. The drawback of this treatment is that there are clicks coming up after a couple of years (clicks never heard before, and I used all LP’s not more than 2 times because they have been “Studer machine taped”). The “ultrasonic cleaning” removes most of the clicks but not all and I used iZotope to ... . The Gläss cleaner was sent to repair to the manuf. and in the meantime the “Record Washer” came into action with very good results. Now nearly all the remaining clicks were removed and the LP’s are “nearly dead silent”. The SQ of the digitized LP’s improves with very nice highs and an analogue sound. Comparing both digital files (CD rips + LP) the CD rips have more details. The cymbals are playing with the CD rips more in the front of the sound stage and are more emphasised. The sound of the LP rips has more density and more air between the instruments. The cymbals are more emerged within the sound with the LP “rips”. Both SQs are great. If you want to go into details and serious listening the CD rips are your choice, and if you like an analogue sound the LP rip is your preference, especially when you are sitting an adjacent room (kitchen, library or “toilet”) Most of the guys in the “Youtube videos” have really no experience with the vinyls. You can’t handle LP’s in such a rude manner. To dry a LP we shall use a soft cotton wool cloth and sweep the drops softly with one or two “rotations” away. Afterwards the groove shall be still moist. (same kind of wetness when the LP comes out of the ultrasonic cleaner – Mani knows the picture) This well-prized record washer is a strong recommendation for the washing procedure prior to digitizing. Please use for best results the cleaning method mentioned in the first reply of this thread. Joachim |