XXHighEnd

With Q5=1 (1.186) regardless of what the other settings are (ie high latency low latency or whatever) I soon start to get problems. Maybe wallpaper does not disappear or a wallpaper error message. Only a reboot sorts that out.

Or maybe in unattended I will try Alt U or D or something and then the PC locks there is nothing I can do with it (music still playing) I then have to reboot the PC. But I may have to reboot 2 or 3 times to get everything working properly again.

My PC may not be the power house of the latest but it is still pretty good.

So Q5=1 is not a practical option for me just now. Am I missing something? have I done something stupid?

Cheers

Paul

Paul,

Q5=1 didn't change a thing compared to 0.9z-9(b). So I estimate that won't be the culprit.

Peter

Addtionally, I think all is pretty well described in the ToolTips on Q3,4(,5). Focus on "TaskManager".

Paul,

I have been rethinking this and no matter what the ToolTips may or may not describe, I think this should not happen. And, my "rethinking" is about that at first this happened to me too and I am not even sure how that was solved (was adjusting/developing things all the time).
About several reboots needed I recall nothing though.

Can you tell me ... I don't think this happened to you right from the start or otherwise you would have mentioned/noticed it right away. So, what has changed ?
I know, a bit obvious, but I still like to know your response.

Best regards,
Peter


PS: One other person reported this, but his situation was quickly solved. Now I don't know anymore where this report sits ...

Hi Peter - I actually did mention in a previous post that I could not get Q=1 to work properly prior to 1.186 but I did not post it as a support issue as the little I heard the sq was not so good.


With 1.186 it is better in that music plays without stuttering but problems will be inevitable. Also now your latest setting 6x10  1  1  1  & 120 does seem to sound promising.

So no Q=1 has not worked for me yet.

Paul

Can you paste that particular text in here please ? The more reference the better.

I also had a PC lock up with Q3/4/5 at 1/1/1. Had to hold power button down to stop PC, but it was OK next boot but back with my normal settings (see signature). Not tried to repeat these setting.

This is the full post for what its worth. I thought that my PC did not have enough "grunt" at the time to run Q=1 because IIRC at the time you mentioned that low powered PC's may have problem. But really I don't think my PC is that low powered. Also it may be nothing to do with memory I did not test enough to be sure.

But Paul, that text refers to 0.9z9-b. Everything changed since then.
So I actually still have the question "what changed since you started with 1.186 ?" but but but ... I thought you posted about SQ regarding 1.186 but I now see you did not. So, apologies and my bad. Now, who else posted about this (or emailed ?) I don't know, and Colin, I don't think this was you.

Ok, this has to be sorted out. Remember, I experienced the exact same thing, but this was with at least Q4 involved (Q3 was not operative at that time).
Hey, I am sure I posted about this ... something with that I even couldn't get on my monitor ! (sound happily playing)

I've also seen a situation where in Normal OS Mode (only there !) the cpu usage goes bananas. This seems unrelated to XXHighEnd (doesn't even need playback to let it happen) but I feel it can be. Paul, maybe you see strange things regarding this ? cpu usage goes sky high and it is consumed by all the processes in there. Never saw something like it. In MinOS nothing wrong, except for playback always stopping eventually. But maybe this is not related at all. However, even in that situation I recognize something like "several reboots" because it *can* go normal. What it resets to that strange behaviour is beyond me so far (but looks like a virus which was not to be found). Oh, in this situation the left pane of Explorer flickers (refreshes) all the time.

??

Peter

Colin,

What this also with sound just continuing ?

Thanks,
Peter

Not sure but I think it locked up before music started. No response from keyboard or mouse so could not start Task Mgr.

With 0.9 I did get Q3/Q4/Q5 at 0/0/1 to play music so maybe as you mentioned its a combination of these settings.

Ok Paul, so something with the lower buffers etc. was the culprit ? Maybe you can find out where limits are ?


Well (from that topic over there), if I can mimic in software what you can do by hardware, things may collide. But that's a very long shot because I first need to be able to really mimic that hardware, which means that I let behave it just like that (so, not so much "mimicing" at all - just cause the same). And no matter I try it, where is the real proof of *that" (our ears ?) ?

Peter

Peter - just to be clear Q5=1 works under 1.186 only insomuch that I can listen to it - but then often I cannot stop it because if I use Alt X or U or D say I get problems and usually I will have to reboot.

The above happens regardless of latency settings.

Cheers

Paul

I need to check processor usage and will report back.

Hey Peter,

I just checked performance with the following settings:

20x1  1  1  2  & SFS=2   

Processor usage around 5% memory 32%

with the following settings

6x10 1 1 1 & SFS=2 processor usage was higher at 8% and memory about the same.

This time I did not have any problems all worked fine when Q5=1 but next time?

Cheers

Paul

Well, let me know about next time ! :swoon:

As it happened I did not need a "next time" I got a wallpaper error message when I brought XX GUI back up. Then when I tried to use XX again it was so slow as to be unusable. I went back to full o/s - no better - so then I restored the o/s back to an earlier time that did not work either so this morning I will try a reinstallation of XX.

MMmmm


Paul

Paul, what is that Wallpaper message ?
In Unattended and W8 I don't think many Wallpaper messages exist. Actually none (but could be an OS message). And now things start to go off track somewhat because in W8 you CAN NOT use the Wallpaper with these settings (1,1,1) - or at least I can't. I am pretty sure (not 100%) that this is written (ToolTips), including the cure for it.

You should have switched off your Wallpaper which was explicit advice for W8 in the first place (say a year ago) and now you are using it while you can't even see it ? 0.9z-9b and Q5=1 same thing ?
And so now I don't know what you are doing out there ... ;)

Peter


PS: Regardless, please don't forget to answer the question from my first sentence and whether that message comes from Attended or Unattended.

Actually Paul, who cares that I don't know what you are doing and in addition it may not be clear at all about that Wallpaper (I have been fighting with it myself and maybe I even got it working). So ... what happens when you just switch it off ? Maybe it helps ?

Peter

Well this is typical of my luck with computers. After further investigations another fault manifested at the same time - my USB music disc has gone faulty - accessing files takes an age and I tried the disc on another computer and the same problem. So that caused XX to be slow just when I started to test Q5=1.

But Q5=1 is still a problem I shall continue investigations later when I have some time. Watch this space..............

Meanwhile it looks as though I may need a new disc.

Cheers

Paul

Woops  -  OK with some embarrassment  :blush2:  Q5=1 seems to be working now with wallpaper switched off.  Wallpaper only causes a problem with Q5=1 though - I have had it on (with other settings) for some time without problems.

Ah well got there in the end.

Now onto my hard disc problem!!!!  Why me?

Cheers

Paul

Paul, I thought I just had posted here with some outlay of Q4 (ToolTip isn't correct) but my post is nowhere. And now I have to run ...

Peter

Whatever I wrote ended with "should be in its own topic", which I now made here : 1.186a - Tooltip on Q4 (stalling issues) (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=2831.0).

Peter