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Ultimate Audio Playback => Your questions about the PC -> DAC route => Topic started by: SeVeReD on November 18, 2007, 04:06:08 am



Title: Question about direct I2S DACs
Post by: SeVeReD on November 18, 2007, 04:06:08 am
I would like to hear people's/PeterSt thoughts on the USB-dacs that avoid S/PDIF conversion and use the "more direct" I2S path.  I know Wavelength Audio & Emirical Audio do this... does Berts' Twin+ usb dac take this route? is there any reason why this wouldn't be better than converting to S/PDIF?  I'd like to build a new computer and buy a dac probably around the time PeterSt puts out XXHE 1.0.

http://www.bd-design.nl/index1.html

http://www.usbdacs.com/   <<wavelength

http://www.empiricalaudio.com/


Title: Re: Question about direct I2S DACs
Post by: PeterSt on November 18, 2007, 08:28:00 am
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is there any reason why this wouldn't be better than converting to S/PDIF?

Uhhmm, would not, would ... don't ask those difficult questions !

I'm not sure what you'd want with the I2S connection, because I don't think there's anything to connect it to. Yeah, well, internally, but careful, because this is the most normal for most of the DACs (or CDPlayers for that matter).

In fact it is the other around, similar to how you put the question : would there be any reason to convert USB to SPDIF, while at the end of SPDIF in there it always has to be converted to something else (unless DAC chips exist that can take SPDIF).
So indeed uhhm, not, the TwinDAC+ converts to SPDIF (yes).

Concluded : I2S is direct only if it is used externally (like a CDDrive with I2S output).
I2S can be used as input for the DAC chip(s), so a USB-I2S (internal) conversion would be best. If the DAC chip takes another electrical signal, then obviously it would be best to convert to that directly.
(note : DAC chip can be input buffer etc.).


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and buy a dac probably around the time PeterSt puts out XXHE 1.0.

You're saving money, are you ? hehehe


Title: Re: Question about direct I2S DACs
Post by: Telstar on November 18, 2007, 04:45:08 pm
I'm in a mud pool because I do not like USB. I havent heard the pleasure to listen to most high-end implementations but I know that gaps are possible and that they ruin the listening experience by a factor of 9 out of 10.

A setup like Peter would be preferrable in my humble opinion, at least until some high-end manifacturer release a firewire DAC (with or without tubes, and with or without OS :) ).