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Hi Peter,

All the time I am using an external SATA harddisk (Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ via a USB2 connection). During music playback I have noticed that the music in not allways capless. So I have decided to build the HD in mine PC. Then the big surprise : very often when XX is loading a track I can hear the very noisy starting sound of clicks and starting HD rotation and after some seconds the track is in memory. Then again no capless playback! Another moment I did not hear any sound of Harddisk access and the next track is playing.Then capless! After some Internet search on the Samsung HD501LJ I found that the Samsung had a Power Save mode. That means that, when there are no commands on the HD this feature automatically switches on power saving mode and cuts down on electricity through the sata cable. So I think that thats the explanation of the starting sound. In Standby mode there is no disk rotation. Very quiet!

Is it possible to introduce a new user settings:

• "Loading all tracks in one time" ;
• "loading track by track".

Some cd's I have are more than 55 minutes long, so its possible... :yes:...?

Regards, Johan

Well, for 55 minute tracks you don't need gapless. So that's settled. :smirk:

Then, I have the same disks, internally connected, and indeed they (relais) click. What to do with that ? I don't know ...
It is true, however, that when they spun down gapless does not work. I always thought it would be a setting somewhere. In fact, I still think so. Could even be a jumper setting.


Less important for now :

1:
2:

Wrong ! But I guess you knew that.

Btw Johan,

HDD power down afaik cannot be controlled over an USB connection (for me one of the reasons not to want such a connection).

Hi Peter,


I have the Samsung drive internally connected! There start all the problems with the spinning sound of the harddisk. I can hear it from a distance of 5 m! Almost every track! The relais are not the main problem.


Is it an possibility?


Whats wrong? How to fix 'it/what'?

Regards, Johan

Hi Johan,


Hmm ... I don't hear any spinning sound of the harddisk. The relais clicks, yes (probably 20 meters haha).


Not a realistic one. Currently, everything which is added will degrade SQ or not make it better the least while that - right now - is needed first. So effectively, no.


Both types of USB connection officially don't go together. The HDD connection will prevale over the DAC connection. That's how USB is organized.
Nothing to do about that.

Oh, I forgot ... when I play at normal levels, I don't hear the clicks. Not at 5-6 meters distance.
I will look into the gapless though (already for my own sake :))

I think this is an important factor to state again.  If you're using a usb-dac, then you should connect your external hdd via firewire.  If you're using a firewire dac, then connect your external hdd via usb.  If I don't have that right peter correct me.

I am using the USB DAC via .....USB and all the HDD's via internal SATA (room for four)

Johan

As long as you are not using isoschroneous USB (towards the DAC) and synchroneous (the HDD) together, it's ok.

A SATA connected HDD incurs for power down of the HDD (which IMO can be set for uptime; I just did not try it). This by itself is just good.

http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/showpost.aspx?postid=2361232&siteid=17&sb=0&d=1&at=7&ft=11&tf=0&pageid=0

I must stress that I have shut off Windows Updates always.
You wouldn't be suffering from this, would you ?

Hi Peter,


Above is a quote from the link you send! After I uninstall update 938979 the problems are solved. Thanks, you are great! :clapping:

Regards, Johan