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Ultimate Audio Playback => XXHighEnd Support => Topic started by: Gerard on October 28, 2007, 04:50:13 pm



Title: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on October 28, 2007, 04:50:13 pm
Hello Peter,

First i like to say that it's great that the most importent ( For me) supports are added. And offcourse that it wont be long now to introduce 1.00  :yahoo:

You have explaint with the update 0.9p  :blush2:

VBR (Variable BitRate) files were *not* tested. If they don't work as they should, you will notice this by a wrong indication of the duration, which goes along with a too early stop of playing the file when the duration is indicated too short, or currently unknown anomalies when it is indicated too long.

This happends a lot.

But i like to show you some message's that came up. It's a little bit ( i think) like the Flac things that you allready know off.

The first one (XX1.png) I like to show you is that is how a Mp3 tracktime thing shows up. Different than from Flac is that all the songs ends with .00 (Or is that how a Mp3 is convert?

The Pic's (xx2.png and xx3.png) Will show you some errors that shows up often. The thing that is a little bit strange is that these errors sometime's also are shown when only .Wav is playing.'

I like to say that than a cd with Wav and Mp3 are loaded in XX.

I have never had such errors when only .Wav is loaded in.

Grtzzzz Gerard...  :grin:







Title: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on October 28, 2007, 06:47:11 pm
Hi Gerard,

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all the songs ends with .00

That's normal for MP3 (in the case of XX).

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The Pic's (xx2.png and xx3.png) Will show you some errors that shows up often.

These are described in the buglist ...

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I have never had such errors when only .Wav is loaded in.

I have ...

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I like to say that than a cd with Wav and Mp3 are loaded in XX.

Which is not the case in your xx2/xx3 example. No times ending at .00 in there. :P

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VBR (Variable BitRate) files were *not* tested. If they don't work as they should, you will notice this by a wrong indication of the duration, which goes along with a too early stop of playing the file when the duration is indicated too short, or currently unknown anomalies when it is indicated too long.


This happends a lot.

What do you mean ?

a. I rely on this :

I've had an extensive listen this evening to a wide range of familiar tracks encoded at anywhere from CBR 320kbps all the way down to CBR & VBR 128kbps and I'm once again impressed with how you're processing this format !! Foobar is yet again a distant memory for me .. LOL

b. By now I myself did not run into any problem (including VBRs indeed).

Peter



PS: Please do not alter the subject of a topic, and then start mixing (up) everything in there ...  I split the topic and changed the other one back to its original title.


Title: Re: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on October 28, 2007, 07:01:00 pm
Hey peter,

I like to say that than a cd with Wav and Mp3 are loaded in XX.

Which is not the case in your xx2/xx3 example. No times ending at .00 in there.  

You are right at that moment the mp3 loading was above the other numbers. But when you say that you have those errors when listening  to .Wav,  than this conclusion is wrong.

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VBR (Variable BitRate) files were *not* tested. If they don't work as they should, you will notice this by a wrong indication of the duration, which goes along with a too early stop of playing the file when the duration is indicated too short, or currently unknown anomalies when it is indicated too long.


This happends a lot.

What do you mean ?


With this i mean that during playing mp3 XX just stops playing..


I am sorry for the mixing up. Won't do it again. :grazy: :grin:


Title: Re: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on October 28, 2007, 07:38:09 pm
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You are right at that moment the mp3 loading was above the other numbers. But when you say that you have those errors when listening  to .Wav,  than this conclusion is wrong.

Well, if I have that myself (as described in the buglist) ... :wacko:

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With this i mean that during playing mp3 XX just stops playing..

Of course I believe you, but now ... how "legal" is that file ?
Would you be so kind to PM me an example ?
Sidenote : AFAIK (or intended) all MP3's should play (opposed to FLAC (as explained elsewhere)).

Thanks Gerard.
Peter


Title: Re: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: SeVeReD on October 28, 2007, 11:27:21 pm
Well in just a bit, after I dl the latest ver... I'll get to listen to the one and only mp3 file I have.  Radiohead-In Rainbows... (just released by them over the net ... not buying the expensive cd/album/art package,,,just yet).  So, we'll see,,, but get back to checking on the sound quality of the wav files... eheh does that sound like a demand? oops sorry. thanks


Title: Re: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on October 30, 2007, 12:26:20 pm
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Would you be so kind to PM me an example ?

Gerard, is it correct that I did not receive anything ?

Btw, I myself still did not find any anomaly yet .


Title: Re: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on October 30, 2007, 01:16:11 pm
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Would you be so kind to PM me an example ?

Gerard, is it correct that I did not receive anything ?

Btw, I myself still did not find any anomaly yet .

Hoi Peter,

Peter you are right i did not have much time yet.. I did some listening though to only Mp3 but did not have the problem i described... I do not understand.... But tonight and tomorrow i will do some listening again but than put in Flac and wav in XX.... maybe the combi is the problem....  :(

Grtzzzz  :)


Title: Re: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on November 03, 2007, 08:20:18 pm
Hoi Peter, All,

I will tell you one other thing i found out...  :unsure:

The errors  No Track Data Found,  No Track Given  and Engine 3 apears for 4 time's in a row today. I pusht the left library button and let the window open. Than XX come's with errors. That apears when the window is open and at the same time the songs ends and wish to go to the next track.

Try it....

Grtzzzz   :prankster:


EDIT 1: I just have seen ( buglist) that it also apears when new tracks are loaded in. But in the case i am writing  you only need to open the left library button and leave the window open.

EDIT 2: Maybe just open and closing is the problem?


Title: Re: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on November 03, 2007, 09:09:35 pm
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Would you be so kind to PM me an example ?

Gerard, is it correct that I did not receive anything ?

Btw, I myself still did not find any anomaly yet .

Hoi Peter,

Peter you are right i did not have much time yet.. I did some listening though to only Mp3 but did not have the problem i described... I do not understand.... But tonight and tomorrow i will do some listening again but than put in Flac and wav in XX.... maybe the combi is the problem....  :(

Grtzzzz  :)

Hoi Peter,

I have been playing a lot these day's and thinking i am crazy...   Maybe it was one particular mp3 cd ( I left in the list) but i don't no the one anymore. I have only had it once last day's when xx goes from a .wav to a mp3 file. But when i playt it again it did not apear.

So forget it i think.... When i have it again i will let you now...

Sorry...

Grtzzz


Title: Re: Wav, Flac , Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on November 03, 2007, 10:39:20 pm
The error no data and Engine 3 stopt working apears for 4 time's in a row today  when i pusht the left library button and leave the window open. Than XX come's with errors. That apears when the window is open and at the same time the songs ends and whants to go to the next track.
EDIT 1: I just have seen ( buglist) that it is when new tracks are loaded in. But in the case i am writing it you only need to open the left library button and leave it open.

EDIT 2: Maybe just open and closing is the problem?

Ahh ...

Gerard, this makes perfectly sense;
When you leave the window open (the one which pops up after clicking the Library button), the program can't do anything else ... while it should provide the next track when playback is active.
:oops:

Thanks. Something to solve ...
Peter


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on November 08, 2007, 10:21:46 pm
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Thanks. Something to solve ...

Which, as it appears now, is not so easy. I tried to solve it in the upcoming 0.9q version, but ...
In a later version I will address it, not now ... :sorry:


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on November 15, 2007, 10:58:58 pm
Hello Peter,

What is the reason that XX sometime's shows a different bitrate with mp3 than the verkenner does?  :unsure:

Grtz Gerard..


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on November 16, 2007, 02:02:47 am
That depends ...
The most obvious reason is a variable bitrate, Exlorer (Verkenner) can't cope with. You can see this at the file's properties, where the data can show "more values" ("meerdere waarden"). In that case the actual (average !) bitrate is unknown (but shown as some crazy value, most often too low), while XX calculates it from the file length and play time.

Otherwise I don't know.
Only when the presented play time by XX is not correct, the bitrate shown by XX is not correct. But I did not see that.


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on November 16, 2007, 06:10:40 pm
That depends ...
The most obvious reason is a variable bitrate, Exlorer (Verkenner) can't cope with. You can see this at the file's properties, where the data can show "more values" ("meerdere waarden"). In that case the actual (average !) bitrate is unknown (but shown as some crazy value, most often too low), while XX calculates it from the file length and play time.

Otherwise I don't know.
Only when the presented play time by XX is not correct, the bitrate shown by XX is not correct. But I did not see that.

Ok...  :scratching:

Most of the time's explorer say's it is 320 kbps and when i play it with XX than 224 or 256 is shown... But indeed playing the same cd XX shows different rate's. So maybe that cd is wrong.... :dntknw:





Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on November 23, 2007, 11:27:58 pm
Peter,

After a few songs XX just stops playing FLAC.( At the end of a track)  XX gave no errors.


Grtz


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on November 23, 2007, 11:32:09 pm
Of course it is not the file ? ...  :smirk:


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: datawolf on December 08, 2007, 03:04:03 am
Why dont I see FLAC files in the Library search results?


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on December 08, 2007, 08:44:26 am
Hi,

That is because it wasn't implemented yet. If all goes as intended, after this weekend you will.
Same for MP3.
:)
Peter


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: datawolf on December 23, 2007, 03:43:58 pm
Hi Peter,

09t-0 is great but I seem to have a problem with long files (I use flac).
They just don't play.

regards

roni


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: PeterSt on December 23, 2007, 05:28:48 pm
Hi Roni,

Maybe you use Engine#1 under XP ? There is a limit of 64MB (original WAV size = just over 6 minutes) in that situation ...
If so, XX should hop over to Engine#2, but now your sound device has to be set as the Primary Device.

Peter


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: datawolf on December 24, 2007, 03:43:40 am
Fantastic.
I was running Engine #2 (XP) which sounds best to me but I had the device set to USB codec.
This is great stuff.
I've played off XXHE against all the competition I can find and it really does outclass them.
Thanks Peter


Title: Re: Wav, Flac, Mp3 Problems ?
Post by: Gerard on December 27, 2007, 08:02:59 pm
Peter,

It was a few models before that i talked about sudden stop during mp3 play. Well it happens sometime's... It happens at the end of a track. No Errors come up but the next song does not start. The reason i have it more today is maybe because i play mp3 more. Meaning now that the whole collection is vissible in the library. It is not everytime the same track.  :wacko:

grtz