Title: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: hwk on October 23, 2011, 08:59:17 pm Hi Peter,
why could it be, that I can't have the same SFS 370 anymore, since I installed 6-1c? I now max. can have a SFS from 270... greetz, HW Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: PeterSt on October 24, 2011, 07:51:46 am Well, first off, I don't think I have a reference for 64bit and 4GB (only), so maybe others with that configuration can tell whether things really changed. Because ...
Because I wonder whether what you perceive is reality. Or better, *was* reality. So, 0.9z-6 (first version) allowed for changing the SFS with the Audio Engine running under the hood, which really didn't change a thing, unless it was killed first (the Off button). That was a bug, and it really took some time before I got it how people could achieve way higher SFS's than officially possible. In other words : it can very well be possible that you did the same before; Only when you had the SFS set to 370 right from the start (after a reboot) and it worked, then it will have been genuine. If you think it is ... nothing changed ! But what easily can have happened is that you changed something in your system, and then mainly right at startup (can easily be some new driver - anything). And notice this is not about something using a huge amount of memory suddenly; it is about the way it scatters through the available memory, hence how it degrades the contiguous portions of it. Peter PS: In 0.9z-5 versions it always was "genuine" what you saw. But I don't think you can have achieved such high SFS numbers with those versions ... 270 already seems a lot to me with 4GB ! Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: hwk on October 24, 2011, 08:31:38 pm Hi Peter,
thanks for your reply. I did some investigation and found out, that I can actually have an SFS of 280 for Mixed Contiguous. I'll find out later on, what the max setting is for Straight Contiguous. Furthermore: can I expect a better SQ when I double the Memory to 8 Gb? grHW Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: PeterSt on October 24, 2011, 08:38:30 pm Hey hey ...
When you think the higher SFS setting brings you better sound, sure. You will be able to reach an SFS of 500 then, although that is too much for my likings. I stick to 430 ... With 12GB the SFS of 500 will possibly sound better again (I assume this, but never tried it myself). Peter Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: hwk on October 24, 2011, 08:54:36 pm Hi Peter,
I don't think anything, that's why I asked you about it. I expected somehow that you have somewhat more experience with XXHe.... :grin: I thought, before spending any money, and so on... Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: hwk on October 24, 2011, 09:04:15 pm BTW, I just found out that with my 4 Gb the max SFS for Straight Contiguous is 20. Is this a normal SFS for it?
grHW Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: PeterSt on October 24, 2011, 09:42:59 pm Now *that* looks far more normal, yes. But wen you start playback as soon as possible after a boot you might get further.
Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: hwk on October 24, 2011, 10:03:49 pm Okay, I'll try that
Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: hwk on October 24, 2011, 10:50:16 pm No Peter, a SFS of 20 is really the maximum in my system for Straight Contiguous...
grHW Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: boleary on October 24, 2011, 11:23:53 pm Hi Peter, just noticed in your signature that you are listing windows 7, "sp1". Are you using SP1 and not "vanilla"? Just wondering.
There are some other things I'd like to say in this thread but I stop myself..... I know I' not crazy....well, maybe a little. :) Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: PeterSt on October 24, 2011, 11:29:38 pm Of course you are completely crazy. Everybody knows that. Especially me !
But I like crazy ... hehe Yes, I am using SP1 for a while again. Don't tell anybody ... :secret: PS: Tell me by email if you want. It may be more confident for both of us. :yes: Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: hf on October 27, 2011, 06:01:32 pm Hi Hw,
I can confirm most of the things you say. I couldn't get my SFS higher than 15-20 with 4 Gb. On the basis of Peter's and other people's recommendation I upgraded to 12 Gb (also had 2x2Gb, like you, but two empty sockets. There I plugged in 2x4Gb). Now, with the 12Gb in total I can get my SFS to 400. But 400 is a bit sensitive: when you've run another process on your computer you might need to reboot. So I've put it to 380 and that works fine. And the sound? Really an improvement... once again... Kind regards, Hein Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: wushuliu on October 27, 2011, 07:56:19 pm Hi Hw, I can confirm most of the things you say. I couldn't get my SFS higher than 15-20 with 4 Gb. On the basis of Peter's and other people's recommendation I upgraded to 12 Gb (also had 2x2Gb, like you, but two empty sockets. There I plugged in 2x4Gb). Now, with the 12Gb in total I can get my SFS to 400. But 400 is a bit sensitive: when you've run another process on your computer you might need to reboot. So I've put it to 380 and that works fine. And the sound? Really an improvement... once again... Kind regards, Hein Yes straight contiguous is my favorite and the more memory the better for xxhe... Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: hwk on October 29, 2011, 04:54:29 pm Okay guys,
higher is better. As usual... grHW Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: arvind on November 09, 2011, 07:36:15 am Hi Peter,
A week back my SFS was set at 500 & then I reduced it to 430. This reduced the harsh brightness in the sound. I then experimented to bring it furthur down to 340, but the sound became a bit dull. So i thought let me try around 375 (somewhere in between 340 & 430). At 375 I get an error window asking me to reduce SFS. Now what could possibly cause this, just a week back I was at 500 & now I cant get 375 to work? All other settings are the same. Presently I can't go over 365. Arvind Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: juanpmar on November 09, 2011, 08:14:00 am I have a similar problem, I move in between 350 (boleary setting) and 360. I can use all the steps but 357 and I receive the same error window as Arvind (weird that are the same numbers in different position).
Juan Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: PeterSt on November 09, 2011, 08:43:50 am Hmm ...
Maybe today you are trying without Minimized OS ? That really makes a difference ... Maybe you installed some new software which becomes active automatically after booting ? Windows upgrades ? I guess you know it, but just to be sure : always start at the higher one, and then go down when you want. The other way around does not work. So, what I (also) say is that you should be able to get that 500 again right after a reboot. Doesn't that work, and it is nothing of the above ? then I'm a bit clueless at this moment ... Peter PS: Never attempt a first playback which implies a volume normalisation for an album you play for the first time; This will eat the memory in advance. Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: juanpmar on November 09, 2011, 01:46:06 pm Peter,
In my case it only happens with 357 and with non of the other values. I followed the steps you said, I unistalled a few sofware I had (winrar, adobe and google chrome). No updates at all, Minimazed OS ok and started at 360 and went down, when I get 357 the message is: Straight Contigous Allocation error 03 - Lower SFS, reboot or choose another type (3 : 87 Total Result = 374341632) The only thing I could think is that I reinstalled the OS several times and there is part of the previous intallations in some folders as a back up, maybe there could be something thatīs disturbing it. Juan Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: juanpmar on November 09, 2011, 03:12:31 pm Peter,
Sorry, I was wrong, actually works at all even values between 500 and 20 (inclusive) and does not work in any of the odd values between these figures and gives the error message mentioned above (with different Total Results numbers). PS: Iīm not using 6-1c, but 6-1 Juan Title: Re: Smaller SFS with 6-1c? Post by: PeterSt on November 09, 2011, 05:22:45 pm Now *that* is a nice one !!
Call that a plain bug. 8) Btw, I sent you an email to your gmail address earlier today. Peter |