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Title: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: JohanZ on February 22, 2011, 02:20:46 pm Quote Try your SFS capabilities just with Attended Playback ! Once you found the limit, maybe go 10 or so under it..... So ... I just claim that the largest size is the best... How do i recognise this limit? Is that the message box telling me to lower the SFS setting or ......? Yesterday i had SFS 500 in Mixed mode (i think) without any message. But I had the impressing that i had a suddenly long break between the tracks.... I will test it again this evening. Johan Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: PeterSt on February 22, 2011, 03:18:10 pm Johan, the "limit" as you describe it, actually is two folded : one is the physical limit which won't allow playback (not enough (contiguous)) memory available, and the other one (your problem here) is about your PC being too slow to cover for reading in that large amount of memory within the time it's given (by me, and no, I won't make that longer :)).
So that counts too ... Notice though that Straight Contiguous will allow for faster memory access to begin with, meaning that 500 of SC (if physically possible) will be faster than Mixed Contiguous which by itself will be faster than Mixed. Peter Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: JohanZ on February 22, 2011, 04:05:18 pm Quote .......one is the physical limit which won't allow playback (not enough (contiguous)) memory available, and the other one...... How do I recognise the moment when I reached this limit, beside the physical limit and the long break between the tracks? Do you have a strategy to find this limit? Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: PeterSt on February 22, 2011, 04:17:13 pm Quote beside the physical limit and the long break between the tracks? I don't understand. You refer to two limits here, and I mentioned two. So what other do you have in mind ? Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: JohanZ on February 22, 2011, 04:43:18 pm Quote .......other one (your problem here) is about your PC being too slow to cover for reading in that large amount of memory Ok I understand now that there are two limits (1) the physical and (2) the long break between the tracks. So everybody who are searching for this SFS limit get this longer break between the tracks first. I had the impression from your answer that I had a special problem here with a slow system. (although I never had the impression that I had a slow system). Sorry but (sometimes) i have some trouble to understand your English text. :(Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: PeterSt on February 22, 2011, 07:24:22 pm Ho hasn't ... haha.
Btw, what is your original language ? We're in the same boat, as long as we think we know english. But I'm afraid we don't ... Quote I had the impression from your answer that I had a special problem here with a slow system. That was the good impression. Not sure where you now get the idea that I am NOT saying that. Quote So everybody who are searching for this SFS limit get this longer break between the tracks first. Nice thinking, but not true. Or, not *always* true; I have no problem with breaks at all, so I run into the physical limit first. Just try to see how easy it all is : We read a track into memory. The larger you make that memory (which is the SFS) the longer it will take to read in the part of the track concerned. Or : when the SFS is larger than your tracks, the longer a track is, the longer it takes. 14 seconds are available, and by the time your have assigned an SFS of 500, 4GB of data has to be read into the memory. And converted from/to whatever kinds. Btw, it is not said that your PC is slow, thinking about cpu. The disk might be the bottleneck easily. If it has to wake up first, that's the first problem (the 14 seconds are consumed anyway). Otherwise it may be time to read this : A Guide to Glitchless Playback (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=1356.0). So, just try to understand what is happening. The remainder you (then) can makeup yourself. Ok ? Peter (sorry for my bad english :)) Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: JohanZ on February 26, 2011, 10:39:36 am On my search to the limit of the SFS value it ends with 8 GB new Memory.
The SFS capabilities ended voor Straight Contiguous in 20MB with the message box to lower the SFS value or reboot the system. A reboot was the only way to get it working again. After a lot of reboots I decided to replace the 3 GB for new memory 8GB. Now SC works without a problem SFS=180MB. There is in the SFS init file a parameter 1,1 or 2,1 it is also memory related. Do still use it in the program? Peter you use a old profile......i think.... Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: PeterSt on February 26, 2011, 11:59:44 am Yes, my profile is old. Maybe I don't want people to copy my settings. Haha
Quote There is in the SFS init file a parameter 1,1 or 2,1 it is also memory related. This implies that you have "strange habits" in upgrading to a new version. You mix up folders with old and new XX files. DON'T. Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: JohanZ on February 26, 2011, 01:03:32 pm Quote you have "strange habits" in upgrading to a new version. You mix up folders with old and new XX files. I just installed it in the folder 9z-4-0. My first impression after the installation was that it finished the installation very fast. Perhaps something went wrong. I will check it. But i'm running 09z-4-1!Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: PeterSt on February 26, 2011, 02:35:09 pm Yes, I sure believe that ! but the point is ... you just shouldn't do it like that.
Notice that SFS.ini already has disappeared in 0.9z-4-0 ... Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: JohanZ on February 27, 2011, 02:05:05 am Quote ... you just shouldn't do it like that. I installed it in a new directory, but its now running in demo mode. What file(s) do i need to copy in this directory to run in undemo-ed mode?Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: Calibrator on February 27, 2011, 05:51:21 am Quote ... you just shouldn't do it like that. I installed it in a new directory, but its now running in demo mode. What file(s) do i need to copy in this directory to run in undemo-ed mode?This should help Johan ... http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=1150.msg10110#msg10110 Regs, Russ Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: JohanZ on February 28, 2011, 09:33:59 am Quote "......I also have a copy of XXHighEnd1xx.DAT ( which is created when you advance out of demo mode ) kept outside the unique version folders. When you create a new folder for any later version, simply copy that XXHighEnd1xx.DAT into the new folder to unlock it." Thanks Russ! Title: Re: 0.9z-4-1 SFS limit ? Post by: jarek on February 28, 2011, 12:33:05 pm Hello Peter,
can you explain the SFS allocation limits on 64-bit system with plenty of memery ? I have 16GB RAM on 64bit Windows Vista Ultimate. Looking into task manager I see 1,4GB allocated memory after sturtup (Vista is hungry). Why I cannot allocate maximum SC of about 400 or 500 ? There is not any continues memory block in such big memory space ? Maybe 64-bit XXHighEnd would be a big step up in this case, you omit 32-bit limit... Thank you Jarek |