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Title: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: Nick on January 25, 2011, 09:57:24 am
Hi,

I'm looking to get a copy of Windows 7 64bit to use on a dedicated music machine, I am thinking of using W7 Premium edition as I don't generally need the extra stuff that W7 ultimate has in it.

Can anyone say What w7 editions are good for XX ?

Thanks,

Nick.

Ps SP1 (RC) will be applied :-)


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: manisandher on January 25, 2011, 10:48:27 am
Nick, I use Ultimate in my main hifi PC and Home Premium in my office PC. Both seem to work perfectly with 0.9z-4-0 (including Straight Contiguous) . The reason I went for Ultimate in my main hifi PC was so that I could try out the remote desktop. However, it became apparent very quickly to me that this is a bad idea with XX and 'Stop Services'.

If you want to try JPlay (not recommended for NOS1 users for reasons cited in another thread), then I think you need to go for Ultimate - I'm not sure you can 'Lock Pages in Memory' with Home Premium... certainly I never managed to do this (but I'd be happy to be proved wrong).

Mani.


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: Chriss on January 25, 2011, 11:17:18 am
http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/lock-pages-in-memory-win-7-home-edition
Dunno if it's work!
Criss.


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: boleary on January 25, 2011, 01:45:57 pm
I use Home Premium and was able to get jplay working.


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: JohanZ on January 25, 2011, 02:06:34 pm
I'm using Enterprise (Ultimate) edition and was not able to get jplay working.


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: Nick on January 25, 2011, 10:36:50 pm
I was concerned about the point that Mani made, that you need W7 Ultimate edition to be able to lock memory pages but z04-0 HighEnd does not appear to need this feature. Also Boolary has managed to get jplay working on W7 Premium  :)

Sounds like W7 Premium 64bit is going to replace Vista on my music PC at last.

Thanks for the advice guys,

Regards,

Nick.


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: Telstar on January 27, 2011, 01:10:57 pm
Well, Business and Enterprise have features that are not needed and that we just remove so they would be a waste (besides problems that could happen sometimes).

Ultimate will work with anything, it has anything, lots of skimming needed but who cares.
Home Premium is what I use on my music pc. It's cheaper, doesnt have extended network stuff (I dont use a LAN or internet AT ALL).

Avoid Basic which is too much crippled. Not sure if there's another version. Ultimate or Home Premium are safe bets.

PS: if you dont have a retail version from the shop, ultimate is easier to work with.


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: Nick on February 19, 2011, 01:08:30 pm
Well, Business and Enterprise have features that are not needed and that we just remove so they would be a waste (besides problems that could happen sometimes).

Ultimate will work with anything, it has anything, lots of skimming needed but who cares.
Home Premium is what I use on my music pc. It's cheaper, doesnt have extended network stuff (I dont use a LAN or internet AT ALL).

Avoid Basic which is too much crippled. Not sure if there's another version. Ultimate or Home Premium are safe bets.

PS: if you dont have a retail version from the shop, ultimate is easier to work with.

Telstar,

Thanks I think I am likely to go for Premium for exactly the reasons you have given. Thanks for the help, I can purchase with confidence.

Nick


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: PeterSt on February 19, 2011, 01:54:01 pm
Notice that Home will only utilize 8GB of memory ...
At least that's what I recall reading somewhere (by now).


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: Nick on February 20, 2011, 11:57:57 pm
Just looked the max memory values up, there's quite a difference. It looks like Home Basic 8gb, Home Premium 16gb, Ultimate 192gb on 64bit.

I'm thinking home premium with upto 16gb should be ok.

Nick


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: PeterSt on February 21, 2011, 07:39:26 am
Thank you Nick. There's just too much (regarding this subject) to know it all by heart. :)

Not to forget :
Our current XX is still 32 bits, which means that only 4GB can be addressed. 0.9.z-4-1 really does that, and it means an SFS of 500 is possible (I played with it yesterday). With a total of 8GB this does *not* imply that an SFS of 500 Straight Contiguous is possible. Not even Mixed Contiguous. But the more memory available, the higher the chance that will work. And it really matters for sound ...
Next, a 64 bit version is around the corner too. This will allow for a larger than 500 SFS in the first place (though not sure at the moment what to do with that), and if used indeed it will put further constraints on the Contiguous space, although it won't matter *that* much anymore (it will be almost linear -> once we're in this high amounts of memory, all the free memory will be contiguous space as well). If I had to say it, 12GB should be enough for doing it all. 8GB still is not. That is, for Straight Contiguous and more than an SFS of 320 (or more than 400 of Mixed Contiguous).

Peter



Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: goon-heaven on February 21, 2011, 08:53:53 am
@64bit XX: will this give us massively greater lossless attenuation? :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:


Title: Re: Windows 7 editions for use with HighEnd
Post by: PeterSt on February 21, 2011, 09:04:30 am
:oops:

I better had explained the maybe not at all that obvious : I meant a 64bit "OS version". Thus, meant for the 64bit OS.
You may not realize it, but XX really is 32 bits to this regard (a 64 bit version already existed long ago, but that wouldn't run on a 32 bits OS).

Sorry ...
Peter