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Ultimate Audio Playback => XXHighEnd Support => Topic started by: Telstar on February 23, 2010, 02:42:46 pm



Title: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on February 23, 2010, 02:42:46 pm
I think is better if i open a new thread.

Hi Telstar,

-The gallery is unable to show more than 8 albums at once, then it reloads them and enters an endless loop.

Is this with the thumbnail cache in use ?

Yes, 1800 (as before).

Y6 was installed over y-5-04, "keeping all settings" when asked and then i restart the application.
It has always worked fine...

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-Playback of the first song starts after 5 seconds

Although this depends on many things, I don't see logic in this being more slow than before. So, there's only logic in this if you "caused" it yourself (like using FLAC now, while before it was just WAV).
I don't want to put tasks upon you, but if you can proove that with the exact same settings and tracks an earlier version started playing quicker, please let me know. In any case, don't forget what I told myself about W7 and its inconsistencies, which can be observed at using the Normalized Volume which for one album may take 5-7 seconds (which would be normal) and for another 1 minute.

Peter

It is the very exact settings as y5-06 which i keep in a different folder for comparison.
the differences are only:
-special mode enabled with 32 samples in the new version.

I do not use the normalize for volume.

I think that it may be somewhat related with the wallpaper that fails to be created on the first song played (the one that takes 5s in my case).

Also, Y6 on different computer, similar settings (but no special mode here, 64 samples, larger wallpaper size) - no slowness at all.
It can also be related to the disabled services and/or to poor videocard (intel x4500) compared to the other pc which is not optimized at all, all services run and the gfx is a very powerful 280gtx.

But because the interface was very snappy before, something must have changed in y6.


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: PeterSt on February 25, 2010, 04:55:40 pm
Telstar,

I asked it elsewhere (not to you), and never got a reply, but about the Wallpaper not appearing, could you check for me whether you ever see ChangeWP appearing in TaskManager ?

Thank you !
Peter


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on February 27, 2010, 10:12:41 pm
Telstar,

I asked it elsewhere (not to you), and never got a reply, but about the Wallpaper not appearing, could you check for me whether you ever see ChangeWP appearing in TaskManager ?

Thank you !
Peter

Will check tomorrow.


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: arvind on February 28, 2010, 02:27:47 pm
Hi Peter,

I am also facing a similar problem. Recently I created a playlist consisting of 40 tracks, all from different albums & it took 10 mins to start playing the first track. Is this normal?

Arvind


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: PeterSt on February 28, 2010, 03:17:03 pm
If you use the Normalized Volume, yes. Do you ?
(btw, I just made that some 4 times faster)


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: arvind on February 28, 2010, 03:36:13 pm
Yes I do use the normalised volume. So the next version will have it 4 times faster?

Arvind


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: PeterSt on February 28, 2010, 03:58:44 pm
About, yes (only when you have FLAC/MP3/AI(F)F albums). Notice though that with 40 tracks from 40 different albums it will really take a too long time, and what it needs is a "batch" function that calculates the Normalized Volume for you (overnight etc.). Then you're done with it once and for all, and only the new albums may hold up.
But that function isn't there yet ... :sorry:

Peter


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: PeterSt on March 02, 2010, 11:50:04 am
Telstar,

I asked it elsewhere (not to you), and never got a reply, but about the Wallpaper not appearing, could you check for me whether you ever see ChangeWP appearing in TaskManager ?

Thank you !
Peter

Will check tomorrow.

Never mind. I found that at Attended Mode (which you sure will be using) the Wallpaper for the first track just wasn't addressed (bug). Solved in 0.9y-7.


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on March 02, 2010, 03:37:23 pm
Never mind. I found that at Attended Mode (which you sure will be using) the Wallpaper for the first track just wasn't addressed (bug). Solved in 0.9y-7.

cool.

I'm going to check now if y7 is more responsive (really hope so),


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on March 05, 2010, 10:17:20 am
I'm going to check now if y7 is more responsive (really hope so),

Unfortunately y7 behave exactly in the same way :(
I did more tests and found out that it is NOT the KS/special mode that causes the player to respond so slow. It's just the new version (from y6).

On the other computer is JUST FINE.

Differences: soundcard (quartet vs x-fi), OS (w7 optimized vs non-optimized).

I tried to change the priorities - they dont do s*it.
Tried to reduce the max thumbnail from 3000px to 2000px - nothing
Tried to augment the thumbs cache (from 1800 to 3000 - nada

I dunno anymore what to do, short of an OS reinstall (which is due when i get a proper V110 display from OrigenAE)

I believe more and more that is related to the videocard and to the fact that i disabled too many services ;)


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: PeterSt on March 05, 2010, 10:21:13 am
Can you show the cpu graphs of this ?

And when not too difficult, also the graphs from the version where it still worked (EXACT same settings of course !!).

Thanks,
Peter


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on March 05, 2010, 08:37:10 pm
Can you show the cpu graphs of this ?

And when not too difficult, also the graphs from the version where it still worked (EXACT same settings of course !!).

Thanks,
Peter

Will check tomorrow. For what i remember the xxhighend process went up to 30%, or around that, checking task manager. Total cpu is of course about 20% higher than that because of the realtime filters/XO.

I will try with maximum cache in xxhe, so far 1024 does not give me "too many buffer errors". I get that with 512.
Q1 is always 4.


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: PeterSt on March 06, 2010, 11:33:08 am
Telstar, can't your problem be in this area : Re: How I tweaked my Vista virtually dead (also for W7) (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=548.msg10043#msg10043) ? (also look at my post following that one).

Compare the two PCs and you will know ...

Peter


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on March 06, 2010, 01:53:41 pm
Telstar, can't your problem be in this area : Re: How I tweaked my Vista virtually dead (also for W7) (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=548.msg10043#msg10043) ? (also look at my post following that one).

Compare the two PCs and you will know ...

Peter

I havent tampered with that. I'm pretty sure it is due to the videocard/DX.
Didnt have the time to do an exact comparison of y5-6 and y7 as you asked, yet sorry.


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: PeterSt on March 06, 2010, 01:55:20 pm
The fact that you haven't tempered with that doesn't imply it's correct ...


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on March 06, 2010, 01:56:01 pm
The fact that you haven't tempered with that doesn't imply it's correct ...

Right, so i'll check it :)


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on March 06, 2010, 08:04:06 pm
OK, exact same settings. y5-6 is fast and responsive, while y7 is terribly slow, and library goes in loop after 7-8 albums.

Settings showed.


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: PeterSt on March 07, 2010, 12:15:40 am
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I did more tests and found out that it is NOT the KS/special mode that causes the player to respond so slow. It's just the new version (from y6).

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OK, exact same settings. y5-6 is fast and responsive, while y7 is terribly slow

You can't make up your mind, can you ?
:scratching:


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on March 07, 2010, 01:47:02 am
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I did more tests and found out that it is NOT the KS/special mode that causes the player to respond so slow. It's just the new version (from y6).

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OK, exact same settings. y5-6 is fast and responsive, while y7 is terribly slow

You can't make up your mind, can you ?
:scratching:

uh? those two sentences means about the same thing.
I'll make the cpu screenshots.

Tonight i verified that the cpu is stable fanless under load. And, more important for you, irTRANS works in w7 x64 (yup i got it this morning yeah!).


Title: Re: y6 in special mode awfully slow
Post by: Telstar on March 09, 2010, 11:04:38 pm
Solved in y8 for me :)

wasapi works as responsive as the old versions.
Will check KS tomorrow.